Post Your GUN (PICS)

[Eudaimonium]

A civilian can buy a legal minigun if it was made and registered BEFORE May 1985.
Because of this, legal ones are VERY rare. Last legal one I saw sold for over $150,000.
There are less than 30 (legal) civilian transferrable miniguns in the US. Extremely rare.

Of course, police and military and manufactures can have NEW cheap miniguns (and Hk and AK and M16...)

That video was AWESOME. +1 That M134 Minigun and Dual Ma-Dauce were sweet.
There are machine gun shoots where people who own these rare collectibles come out and shoot together.
"Knob Creek" is the biggest of the gatherings. Lot's of Youtube footage.

Wait, so basically everything owned on that video is legal? Holy sh*t.

I froze still when I saw ammunition crates. Hahah, I wish I had a lot of bullets, I'd go shooting every day.

Which brings up the question, is it legal to export ammunition over borders? Because here locally, ammunition (much like everything else) costs 2x more than if I'd order it.

Any sites that ship internationally come to mind?

 

[LazyBeam]

All the guns in that video are likely legal. Owners of legal full auto firearms don't usually tolerate when others break the rules. We jumped through hoops, paid taxes, and waited months to have or items legally. People who break the law and convert guns to shoot full auto give all owners of full auto a bad name in the news. I hope all the guns in the video are legal.

I have no idea about ording ammunition internationally. I would have to guess that getting ammo requires some sort of import/export license. I know we can't casually take ammunition across the Mexican or Canadian internatioal border. I wish we could still get the cheap chinese AK ammo. They stopped importing it and now it's 3X more expensive.

 

[00Giorge]

There are gun ranges where you can pay to shoot an M-16 or an AK-47 and many other guns. We have a couple of those places here locally. I also have a friend that has an M-16 and is worth about 16k. All you have to do to own one of these guns legally is to apply for a BATF tax stamp for each item you own. I am going to buy a suppressor (silencer) and will need to pay my $250 for my BATF tax stamp, currently that is about a 3 to 4 month wait, since I know someone that has already sent theirs in over 2 months ago, thats why I know how long the wait is.

 

[Eudaimonium]

There are gun ranges where you can pay to shoot an M-16 or an AK-47 and many other guns. We have a couple of those places here locally. I also have a friend that has an M-16 and is worth about 16k. All you have to do to own one of these guns legally is to apply for a BATF tax stamp for each item you own. I am going to buy a suppressor (silencer) and will need to pay my $250 for my BATF tax stamp, currently that is about a 3 to 4 month wait, since I know someone that has already sent theirs in over 2 months ago, thats why I know how long the wait is.

What about makeshift, done-yourself silencers?
Can you also register them, or is it totally illegal?

My dad once shared some details for most effective silencer you could posibly imagine.
Not sure if it's alright to post on the public forum.

If interested, shoot me a PM. Not wanting to risk anything.

 

[HIMNL9]

Well, here in Italy is illegal also to own a normal gun with the end barrel threaded for mount a silencer, so figure yourself about DIY (not that this don't happen, anyway )

BTW, about that video, i'm more impressed from the fact that some of these guys had anti-tank cannons, than automatic machineguns ..... does US laws permit this ?

(And what's the excuse for possess them ? ..... "self-defense" ? ..... )

 

[LazyBeam]

Yes, cannons are completely legal. The same laws that applu to silencers and machineguns apply to any firearm that is over 12.5mm in calibre. Basically, it's a $200 tax/fee and an application/registration. Just like machineguns. There is no "excuse" to own them. On application forms when they ask for a reason you write "all lawful purposes". LOL. Some cannons that are antiques have no laws about them.

@ 00Giorge: What kind of can are you buying?
I'm hearing great things from Liberty Suppressors and AAC right now.

@ Eudaimonium: You can make your own suppressor but you must pay the fee and get the paperwork approved before you begin construction. A home built silencer is no different than a factory made silencer. Factory silencers are generally almost always better because they spend lots of money for research and use things like CNC to make them.
Here's the silencer plans I'm using to build when I submit my fee and paperwork for approval in a few months. It is for 9mm Machineguns.

 

[00Giorge]

What about makeshift, done-yourself silencers?
Can you also register them, or is it totally illegal?

Seems LazyBeam answered that for me.

@ 00Giorge: What kind of can are you buying?
I'm hearing great things from Liberty Suppressors and AAC right now.

@ Eudaimonium: You can make your own suppressor but you must pay the fee and get the paperwork approved before you begin construction. A home built silencer is no different than a factory made silencer. Factory silencers are generally almost always better because they spend lots of money for research and use things like CNC to make them.
Here's the silencer plans I'm using to build when I submit my fee and paperwork for approval in a few months. It is for 9mm Machineguns.

I am getting a Gem-tech Trek so I can use it on my .22 or on a .223 $525.00.

 

[LazyBeam]

You should not shoot 22LR through a silencer that cannot be taken apart to clean. You can do it, but it will eventully clog up the suppresser.
Be sure to ask gemtech if it's OK to shoot .22lr through thier silencers.
Other than that, gemtech makes quality cans and has good cuatomer service. I love my Gemtech Tundra 9mm.

 

[532 with Envy]

Here's me and here's my gun :gun: the fastest 12 ga around. this is a custom AK, it has had the trigger group moved back.
Count em there are 4 shells you can see in the air and one you can't see

GOD BLESS AMERICA!:cryyy:

This is my one and only....non-functioning....handgun.
I wish I knew more but here we go....SOME DAY...I hope to get this to working order, but said laws, say I can't have one in some city.
(P.S. I might be the only Eagle Scout to ever be arrest for his pocket knife:tsk::thinking

Sterd & Werke GmbH.Suhl
Sebstlade-Pistole"Beholla" Cal. 7.65 D-P-R

This is what is on the weapon...the photos don't always come out as I wish.
I'm pretty sure I dated it at 1912 because of the..'very worn'...handle.
The trigger mechanism seems to be broken and of course there is the handle. The slide still amazingly does quite well..and I think with a pro's hand and cleaning up it might make a good weapon.
Enjoy, damn shameful next to my fellow country man..but I can dream.

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[00Giorge]

You should not shoot 22LR through a silencer that cannot be taken apart to clean. You can do it, but it will eventully clog up the suppresser.
Be sure to ask gemtech if it's OK to shoot .22lr through thier silencers.
Other than that, gemtech makes quality cans and has good cuatomer service. I love my Gemtech Tundra 9mm.

Already did that is what they recommended. I was told you can use a 223 silencer on a 22, but you can't use a 22 silencer on a 223.

 

[LazyBeam]

Dr Dater & Kel (@ gemtech) should know that you can clog up a supperssor shooting 22lr. :undecided:
You can do it... and it's safe... but you will create lead and carbon deposits in any suppressor used with .22lr
Rifle rounds burn much hotter and much higher pressures. A rifle round leaves basically zero deposits. 22lr is VERY dirty.
I would reccomend a separate silencer that can be cleaned for the 22lr or shooting very little 22lr through a solid welded can.
I have an older sealed .22lr can (SWR Warlock) with only a 2k-3k rounds through it and I can't even see the first baffle anymore.

Here is a guy that took apart two of his silencers showing the lead deposits left in the silencers.
http://www.silencerresearch.com/tac_67.htm
http://www.silencerresearch.com/norrell_custom_can.htm

 

[00Giorge]

I tried to find the email I got from gem-tech but I can't find it. The one that they recommended comes apart but I don't see it on there web site so I am probably wrong on the model, but it was for a 223.

 

[ossumguywill]

Of course, police and military and manufactures can have NEW cheap miniguns (and Hk and AK and M16...)

I hate this law so much... plus, the funny thing is, an infinitesimal amount of gun crimes were ever committed by automatic weapons... :crackup:

Although I do know of a guy who sells guns to the police, and he gets to buy and use fully automatic weapons at military/LEO prices.

Yes, cannons are completely legal. The same laws that applu to silencers and machineguns apply to any firearm that is over 12.5mm in calibre. Basically, it's a $200 tax/fee and an application/registration. Just like machineguns. There is no "excuse" to own them. On application forms when they ask for a reason you write "all lawful purposes". LOL. Some cannons that are antiques have no laws about them.

However, if you buy, say, a howitzer, you must pay the $200 BATF tax for EVERY SINGLE explosive shell you buy. Over a certain amount of high explosive inside a piece of ammunition classifies it as a destructive device or whatever, and it becomes a weapon in and of itself in the eyes of the BATF. However, I think there may be some exceptions, as where I lived in Idaho they occasionally used an old cannon that fired explosive shells to initiate avalanches.

 

[Dawinzi]

Watch this Video, its to funny !!!

Here the Link: YouTube - Arab Shooting Gun Test

 

[Prototype]

ou must pay the $200 BATF tax for EVERY SINGLE explosive shell you buy. Over a certain amount of high explosive inside a piece of ammunition classifies it as a destructive device or whatever, and it becomes a weapon in and of itself in the eyes of the BATF.

This also applies to devices of large caliber, even if they don't have explosive rounds, depending on their use. The .950 JDJ got a Sporting Use permit, but uh, I don't think anyone is going hunting with one of those things.

Any non-sporting firearm with a bore over 0.50", such as a 40mm grenade launcher often used in conjunction with military rifles. (Many firearms with bores over 0.50", such as 12-gauge shotguns, are exempted from the law because they have been determined to have a legitimate sporting use.)

Source: National Firearms Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[LazyBeam]

Depends. Non-breechloading Smoothbore cannons are not regulated under the NFA. You can buy an antique or build your own as long as it's not breechloading or rifled. And there is definately no sporting purpose for people having cannons.