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Pits being mean has nothing to do with them being pits. It all comes from how the owner raises and trains them.

Thats not entirely true. My friends family used to raise them for fighting, and its the dogs natural instinct to be agressive. This doesnt mean you cant have a lovey, dovey, pit. What it does mean is they can revert to that instinct at any time. You cannot breed it out of the dog by giving it a good and loving home. Most of the horror stories you read about were all loving dogs that had something trigger their instinct. Female, and neutered pits are the safest, but by no means would I put a baby near them. All it takes is some freak incident to put them in a rant. And when they are ranting they are blind to any control. My X GF was bit when she was 12 by the most friendliest pit you'll ever meet. The dog was brought up in a good home with other children. The only thing that saved her life was the owner was packing, and dropped the dog in front of her. No lie. She is scared mentally, and physically for life. So please, next time you think the dogs are safe, read the WHOLE stories, and dont make excuses for the dogs behavior. They were bred for their aggression, and hunting ability. They were not bred as the family dog. No matter how good you treat that dog you will never change its basic instinct.
 
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Thats not entirely true. My friends family used to raise them for fighting, and its the dogs natural instinct to be agressive. This doesnt mean you cant have a lovey, dovey, pit. What it does mean is they can revert to that instinct at any time. You cannot breed it out of the dog by giving it a good and loving home. Most of the horror stories you read about were all loving dogs that had something trigger their instinct. Female, and neutered pits are the safest, but by no means would I put a baby near them. All it takes is some freak incident to put them in a rant. And when they are ranting they are blind to any control. My X GF was bit when she was 12 by the most friendliest pit you'll ever meet. The dog was brought up in a good home with other children. The only thing that saved her life was the owner was packing, and dropped the dog in front of her. No lie. She is scared mentally, and physically for life. So please, next time you think the dogs are safe, read the WHOLE stories, and dont make excuses for the dogs behavior. They were bred for their aggression, and hunting ability. They were not bred as the family dog. No matter how good you treat that dog you will never change its basic instinct.

I do agree with some of what your saying but first of all in the red nose breed the females are known to be the most aggressive. Yes mine is a female and you may think it to be crazy that I allow my son and dog to play together however I have raised this particular dog from the age of 3 weeks and I know her temperament quite well. Would I allow my son to play with any pitt like that, NO absolutely not. All interaction between my dog and my son is closely monitored by either myself or my wife and they are NEVER left alone together.
What you may fail to realize is that the instinct of a dog to attack is most often triggered by someone/some animal running away. This causes the dog to sense fear which can evoke their instinct to be dominant in an environment where dominance has not been established.
I cannot speak for anyone else and their personal experiences but from my perspective ANY dog can be unpredictable, you cannot simply train a dog and expect them to act the same all the time, you constantly maintenance the relationship you have with dog. Dogs, just like humans, have bad days too. You must be able to pick up on things like that and be conscious of their needs.
I'm sorry to hear about the unfortunate accident that happened to your Ex and the dog. I cannot say where the fault lies in that situation, I don't know exactly how the dog was raised, "loving home" to me may not be the same as to others. You need more than simply a loving home too.
All I can say is that I am comfortable with my situation, would I recommend it to anyone, not necessarily.
Take care TJ:beer:
James
 
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I'm with Ramsey. Every pit I've ever met, I would entrust with my life, or my little baby cousins. They aren't just going to go crazy and rip it's head off. And if it did happen, I would know that it could happen with any dog on earth.

English mastiffs were bred for Caesar as guard dogs. He had army's of them that he would let loose and they would murder soldiers, then come back and lay In his bed with them.

All dogs have the same instincts pits do. Are pits known to be more aggressive? Yes, but you can raise them away from that( or at least every one I have met was)


Does anybody know how to embed Photobucket video???
 
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As far as I know, you cannot embed a Photobucket video. Just post a link to it and we'll go there to watch it.

Or upload to youtube.

Speaking of which, I should film my dog chasing some lasers. You get the feeling he'd punch a hole in a brick wall no problem following it.
 
I do agree with some of what your saying

You do realize, depending on what part of Florida you live in, that picture you posted with your baby and dog can have you arrested for child endangerment, your dog destroyed, and have the local child welfare department reviewing your living situation? This is no joke, and the reality of the situation.

I like pitbulls, always have. But I would never mix children in with the dog. No matter what you say, you cant control that dog, and an accident can happen in less than 3 seconds. You could never react that fast.
 
Thats not entirely true. My friends family used to raise them for fighting, and its the dogs natural instinct to be agressive. This doesnt mean you cant have a lovey, dovey, pit. What it does mean is they can revert to that instinct at any time. You cannot breed it out of the dog by giving it a good and loving home. Most of the horror stories you read about were all loving dogs that had something trigger their instinct. Female, and neutered pits are the safest, but by no means would I put a baby near them. All it takes is some freak incident to put them in a rant. And when they are ranting they are blind to any control. My X GF was bit when she was 12 by the most friendliest pit you'll ever meet. The dog was brought up in a good home with other children. The only thing that saved her life was the owner was packing, and dropped the dog in front of her. No lie. She is scared mentally, and physically for life. So please, next time you think the dogs are safe, read the WHOLE stories, and dont make excuses for the dogs behavior. They were bred for their aggression, and hunting ability. They were not bred as the family dog. No matter how good you treat that dog you will never change its basic instinct.


HAHAHAHAHAHA Really? They bred this type of dog for fighting? what do they do put Rocky 4 on TV while they're mating? or is it while the pups are being born? ROFL!!!! I say the aggression, and hunting ability comes from well, it being a dog? all dogs have instinctive attributes no matter of what type... this breed of dog was selected/created to fight not because of its natural instinct to be aggressive but because of its build/strength.

Trust me, it really is all about how a domesticated dog is raised by its owner...

I would understand the whole humans stepping in to breed types dogs with other types dogs of more aggressive traits, "if there was any such thing as a dog with more aggressive traits than another", But there is not!

Studies at my local university have been running for years on animal behaviour it was a good read, six different breed of dog was selected from smallest to biggest "all raised with as least human influence possible in packs of seven"

Dogs of all selected breed and size range reacted EXACTLY the same way when put into a controlled environment where carefully thought up scenarios were played out, all of the tests were done with size being very important right down to the nearest measurement, smaller objects/people for smaller dogs ect.

I was bit by what has been also described as a very friendly loving family dog, i'm the only person its ever bit... i can only assume because i was a stranger to it and how the dog perceived me triggered the reaction, i began thinking about why this dog reacted in the way it did towards me, i can't really say why it did, but then something that isn't obvious to me might have been obvious to the dog... it could have been anything from the smell of the aftershave i was wearing to the pattern on my shirt combined with my over all appearance/movement/expression.

Edit: i'm not trying to start a "forum battle" here, simply sharing my knowledge :)
 
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Meet Rocky. He turned 4 months old on August 3rd. I'll be taking him to a lake this Friday. Hopefully he'll be willing to go into deeper water.








His ears look like little horns in this picture. Maybe that's his devilish side showing! LOL



I wish he wasn't moving so fast for this picture.



Into the pool...


...Grabbing the stick...


...And out with the stick

Cute dog! :)

It looks so much like mine

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You do realize, depending on what part of Florida you live in, that picture you posted with your baby and dog can have you arrested for child endangerment, your dog destroyed, and have the local child welfare department reviewing your living situation? This is no joke, and the reality of the situation.

I like pitbulls, always have. But I would never mix children in with the dog. No matter what you say, you cant control that dog, and an accident can happen in less than 3 seconds. You could never react that fast.

Of coarse I know the law, I live in central FL and no such laws exist here. NO I cannot be arrested for allowing my son and dog to play together.
I am appalled at your lack of understanding of this situation. You have insulted my intelligence TJ! Do you realize how many people have pitts that freely interact with their children with absolutely no ill effect.

The Truth About Pitbulls " It can be estimated that for every Pit Bull who kills, there are 10.5 MILLION that DON'T!"

Maybe consult an expert as I have. Cesar Millan's Official Website | Achieving balance between people and dogs.

I know you can be like trying to talk to a wall sometimes, but we may have to agree to disagree here TJ. Don't get your panties in a bunch now.:shhh: I'm done with this subject! Moving on to more productive things, thanks for the advice though.:tinfoil:
 
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Of coarse I know the law, I live in central FL and no such laws exist here. NO I cannot be arrested for allowing my son and dog to play together.
I am appalled at your lack of understanding of this situation. You have insulted my intelligence TJ! Do you realize how many people have pitts that freely interact with their children with absolutely no ill effect.

The Truth About Pitbulls " It can be estimated that for every Pit Bull who kills, there are 10.5 MILLION that DON'T!"

Maybe consult an expert as I have. Cesar Millan's Official Website | Achieving balance between people and dogs.

I know you can be like trying to talk to a wall sometimes, but we may have to agree to disagree here TJ. Don't get your panties in a bunch now.:shhh: I'm done with this subject! Moving on to more productive things, thanks for the advice though.:tinfoil:



Now everyone needs to chill, and watch the video. I put my hot girlfriend in it so watch it damnit!


http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc503/JakeGT/8e7ff7e6.mp4
 
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^ Very nice video, pretty funny too! I agree time to change the mood of this thread. Thanks for sharing the video.
My apologies to the O.P.
 
Lol! This is hilarious. From that site you linked Ramsey.


Did you know....
1.) About 40 people (children) per year die by drowning in 5-gallon water pails. A person, during their lifetime, is 16 times more likely to drown in a 5-gallon water pail than to be killed by a Pit Bull.

2.) Approximately 50 children in the US are killed every year by their cribs - 25 times the number of children and adults killed by Pit Bulls.

3.) Approximately 150 people are killed every year by falling coconuts. Therefore, you are more than 60 TIMES MORE LIKELY to be killed by a PALM TREE than a Pit Bull.

4.) Each year, 350 people drown in their bathtubs. You are 151 times more likely to be killed by your bathtub than you are by a Pit Bull.

5) Every year, more than 2,000 children in the U.S. are killed by their parents or guardians either through abuse or neglect. A child is more than 800 times more likely to be killed by their caretaker than by a Pit Bull.

6) It can be estimated that for every Pit Bull who kills, there are 10.5 MILLION that DON'T!
 
Well if you want to get technical, those statistics, while true are a little biased, i.e. dog attacks rarely (as in, not as frequent in this context) kill people but frequently result in some injuries.

If those statistics could be recalculated with death AND injuries statistics, things would turn out little different.

None the less, care should be taken.
 
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I think they are cool, but yeah, they are an aggressive breed. That's why they were used for fighting. You would never see a greyhound fighting... they are good at running fast.... beagles are barkers, etc. I don't think anyone has ever been maimed by a bichon frise.

Your dog might be chill as hell, but the breed IN GENERAL is very aggressive.
 
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