PHR build in a 3405 kit --[DEAD]--

[Tech_Junkie]

Re: PHR build! with a 3405 kit!

Dude you still dont get it. Lasers are not a joke around here. We pay attention to what is being said to protect other members. As Morgan said, people can mistakenly take wrong advice from you because of your post count. Every other member with 500 posts knows what needs to be known. You're still playing kidy games. Normally its not an issue on other forums, but here it is. High powered lasers are not a toy, period. People can get hurt, hurt others, lose major money, ect because the wrong advice is given. It's not a joke. You treat this place with no thought at all. We are a science forum, helping people to work with high powered lasers. Its not anything else. We all get to kid around here only because we know what we are talking about. You dont. You need to read more and post less, bottom line. I dont know how many more people can tell you this before you get it. You're proving you're not that bright with every post you make, because this is frowned upon here. Do you get it now?

 

[bloompyle]

Re: PHR build! with a 3405 kit!

Dude you still dont get it. Lasers are not a joke around here. We pay attention to what is being said to protect other members. As Morgan said, people can mistakenly take wrong advice from you because of your post count. Every other member with 500 posts knows what needs to be known. You're still playing kidy games. Normally its not an issue on other forums, but here it is. High powered lasers are not a toy, period. People can get hurt, hurt others, lose major money, ect because the wrong advice is given. It's not a joke. You treat this place with no thought at all. We are a science forum, helping people to work with high powered lasers. Its not anything else. We all get to kid around here only because we know what we are talking about. You dont. You need to read more and post less, bottom line. I dont know how many more people can tell you this before you get it. You're proving you're not that bright with every post you make, because this is frowned upon here. Do you get it now?

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What the hell? That should be obvious, that's like having to tell somebody a shotgun isn't a toy. And I'm always telling people how much something should cost with new builds so that they DON'T waste money. I've even been praised for doing so. And I do read, I'm not posting as much, I'm not trying to give people much advice anymore because whenever I do, people 'corect' me by just saying the same thing I did but rewording it, or they elaborate on what I say, and it's not worth the effort if the only thing that comes with it, is you..... I don't 'treat this forum like a joke'. I respect it. So far I have yet to see you contribute much to this forum (by the way it's a LASER forum) other than cooking recipes. Yeah, I like food as much as the next guy, but really? You're going to chastize ME when all you contribute is cooking recipes???

 

[Tech_Junkie]

Re: PHR build! with a 3405 kit!

My cooking thread is in the "other" section where it belongs, and was made to help students, or anyone, eat well on a tight budget. Its helping people. I've donated to the forum numerous times, helped a member that was going to be homeless, given piles of stuff to members needed to finish their projects for free, done free artwork for members, flushed out scammers, caught at least 9 banned members trying to get back in, and more. You have nothing to say about me. Maybe if you read more, you'd know this. Literally 80% of your posts are trash, and the rest are uneducated dribble.

Why you dont see me giving much advice is because I'm burnt out answering the same n00b questions for a year and a half.

You really are dumb. You think you're right no matter what people tell you. Till you figure things out I will be a thorn in your side till you smarten up, or leave.

 

[bloompyle]

Re: PHR build! with a 3405 kit!

I don't always think I'm right, if that were the case, I wouldn't ask questions. I think that the 'you always think you're right' statement points more at you. You cease to understand that from the beginning your anger, and insults torwards me were completely unwarented, yet you continue to throw them. Go ahead, be a little PEST and insult me wherever I go, it just makes you look bad, not I. But, I guess that's your personal decision to make, not mine. Have fun! Tootles!

PS: I will admit that the cooking thread is a nice touch, and if I weren't so lazy, I'd add to it.

 

[Tech_Junkie]

Re: PHR build! with a 3405 kit!

Thanks, I will. :beer:

 

[Morgan]

Re: PHR build! with a 3405 kit!

I didn't change it's name to red. It just has a faint red dot. It's gone now (I think), and it doesn't have red anymore (I use it to set the current on my driver, with a white cloth covering the diode).

Also, the IR was invisible first, then after a few uses it went red.

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Yes you did.

And...

And @TJ, find something by me that you think is false. There have only been 1-2 situations where I gave false information on complete accident, and I have thus apologized for them repeatedly. The one about the green laser I apologized like 5 times and explained it was bad info because he kept thanking me...

I didn't change it's name to red. It just has a faint red dot. It's gone now (I think), and it doesn't have red anymore (I use it to set the current on my driver, with a white cloth covering the diode).

This is false. You cannot set the current in this way. You may be able to get a really, really, rough idea of what your driver might be outputting, (probably only as accurate as knowing it is working or not!). Please tell me how you know accurately what mA you are actually ouputting? If this is a visual technique then why not use a visible wavelength? I can only assume that you're viewing it remotely with a CCD camera of some sort. This is the sort of information that should not be read as it can lead to someone thinking they can set their $200 diode in this way.

TJ does do a lot for the forum. You don't have to know all there is to know about lasers or build the best lasers in the world to contribute. I've read post where TJ openly admits that he does not excel at building but he certainly has the nose to sniff out and deal with etiquette issues. That alone is worthy.

I'm glad you are slowing down on your posts containing advice. I agree with TJ when he says this is a scientific forum. As such it requires super accurate information. If you have read a post that you think may help someone, and it was written by well repped members then it's valid to link it; but don't try and regurgitate the information because someone will always correct you. If you cannot see why someone feels the need to reword some advice that you have given, then you probably don't understand it enough yourself. I have learnt what I know and also know what I have learnt.

If I have given, "doubtful replies", in this thread then please ask for clarification and I'll happily elaborate.

M

 

[bloompyle]

Re: PHR build! with a 3405 kit!

I was told by ChipDouglas that I can use a dead diode as well (and a multimeter) to set the current. Attaching a diode, then power, then testing the current and turning the pot until I have the current I'm looking for. I thought it was dead because they are supposed to be run on 50mA, and I took it to as far as the pot would go for a few seconds so that it WOULD be dead. Turns out it wasn't. That's how I did it, if it's a wrong technique, then ask ChipDouglas.

Also, Iw asn't calling a red diode, I just said it was turning red, and I was looking for a reason why, I got it. That can be dropped.

 

[Morgan]

Re: PHR build! with a 3405 kit!

You failed to mention anything about a multimeter!

Please link the post where you were told this.

M

 

[TTerbo]

Re: PHR build! with a 3405 kit!

quote from bloompyle
"and I have thus apologized for them repeatedly"
i am not sure but did he use thus in the right place?
lol idk
cheers

 

[bloompyle]

Re: PHR build! with a 3405 kit!

I didn't change it's name to red. It just has a faint red dot. It's gone now (I think), and it doesn't have red anymore (I use it to set the current on my driver, with a white cloth covering the diode).

And @TJ, find something by me that you think is false. There have only been 1-2 situations where I gave false information on complete accident, and I have thus apologized for them repeatedly. The one about the green laser I apologized like 5 times and explained it was bad info because he kept thanking me...

So, TJ, find something I posted that you think is fabricated. Because I have no reason to lie to all of you, and I haven't. But nice try...

EDIT: Just for the simplicity of it, TJ, just say everything you want to say to me now. Right here, in this thread. Its my thread, it's a dead thread, and quite frankly all I've gotten from this thread is doubtful replies, with the exception of TTERBO. So, everything you want to say to me, all the insults you want to say to me, all the degrading comments that you can muster. Say them now, just so I don't have to deal with your shit later down the road, just get them over with, right here, right now. Also, promiss that after this you will stop insulting me, stop bashing me, stop trying to degrade my character. Just get it all done and over with, right now.

Thank you.

I said it there......

Quote from ChipDouglas:

you make a test load or use one of your bad dioeds. hook up your power supply to the driver... then hook up your test load where the laser would go... next, set your meter to the correct setting and put the probes on the test load side. read your meter. and slowly turn the pot until you get the desired reading.

michael

 

[TTerbo]

Re: PHR build! with a 3405 kit!

well it sais "Bad" not dead so bad could mean a live 10mw lol,

 

[Cheech]

Re: PHR build! with a 3405 kit!

Love it
Some one now needs to do this.

 

[Morgan]

Re: PHR build! with a 3405 kit!

Correct TTerbo. It does say bad not dead. "Bad", diodes could work as long as you can be sure they still conduct correctly. Diodes can fail for a number of reasons but if one had died and gone open circuit then drivers such as the Flexdrive will be toast if you power it with no load.

You did not say it there. There is no mention of a multimeter at all in the quote you just posted. You just said, "...set the current... ". This does not automatically mean you used a multimeter. Do you see where you're going wrong yet? You do not give full, accurate information. The best and safest way to set current and protect your diode is to use a dummy test load as described by ChipDouglas although I would connect the dummy load before the power supply, (There is plenty of information on these so I won't link but a quick search will turn it up). Maybe once you have one of these you can be absolutely certain you set your PHR to 110mA. Until then you could very well have killed it by not following advice that you had been given or not reading enough. I would advise you have the proper tools before you try to install a more expensive GGW or whatever other diode you use.

Good luck.

M



[edit: Cheech, that's a new one on me! I like!:crackup:]

 

[bloompyle]

Re: PHR build! with a 3405 kit!

Ugh, I DID fully read the info. I used a bad diode, and checked it. A dead diode to me would definately be a bad diode, and vice versa. Thats like saying there's a difference between a 'bad' light and a dead light. A dead light would be a bad one, same with diodes. If it's dead, then it's probably a bad diode, since it's dead. See where I am coming from? So, I DID use the advice given to me... And I'm ALMOST positive that I mentioned using a multimeter somewhere in this thread...And I know about test loads, But he mentioned using bad diodes, and I had those on hand, and there was no mentioning of one being better than the other. So I used the bad diode method.

 

[Morgan]

Re: PHR build! with a 3405 kit!

No, you didn't mention a multimeter in the quote you used!

Bad diode does not equal dead diode. A diode that has, as we put it, LEDed still has electical continuity and puts out some light. It is damage to the internals that prevent lasing but do not affect its electrical properties. You tried to pop the IR diode to kill it properly. Killing a diode like this can cause full death or a dead diode. Partial death or LEDed is just a bad diode! How did you test your diode and how did connect your multimeter to set your current? What driver were you using?

Get your facts and jargon absolutely correct before you try and have this type of conversation. You do not know your subject matter. Take the time to learn it.

M

 

[bloompyle]

Re: PHR build! with a 3405 kit!

I can't test the diode, no LPM (I don't have $60 right now to test laser output, I really don't care about the exact output). I connected the MM + and -'probes' to the driver output (diode connection). I would connect wait a couple seconds for it to stabalize, I did this 2-3 times per turn to make sure it was right, then I turn the post accordingly a little bit at a time. I started noticing that once my driver (A Rckstr MicroDrive V3) hit ~150mA the current would go higher a LOT faster.