Pgl 589 gb, dead in the water.

[olympus mons]

Re: PGL-III-C-589 GB-Payments stage.

its a direct deposit, so the bank would have a record of it, as well as WU. it'd be hard to get away with a theft that big...but its not unheard of. though i've never heard of such a thing from CNI. people buy from them all the time. if they did something like that they wouldn't likely be in business still. especially as lasers are a highly competitive market. its no different than if you order from anywhere else, tho I do agree, some discretion is always warranted with large purchases. though honestly if you guys are at risk simply by ordering, I doubt CNI is the thing to worry on here...worry more about customs. I can't put all my thoughts down here in a public space for reasons I hope are obvious.

simply put...you are technically trying to dodge customs, so if you do order, be prepared to take it as a loss, however unlikely. how bad do you want the laser? everytime I take apart a laser its the same for me.

-do no harm, but be prepared for the worst. it is ALWAYS possible something can go wrong-

I'm not trying to be negative...I dont foresee huge problems...but do have realistic expectations.

Thanks. I'm not worried about intentional theft or that type of concern like I said just that mistakes happen so want some type of way to show the funds were received. A WU transfer to their bank would be just fine with me. Thanks for your help.

 

[ultimatekaiser]

Re: PGL-III-C-589 GB-Payments stage.

Thanks. I'm not worried about intentional theft or that type of concern like I said just that mistakes happen so want some type of way to show the funds were received. A WU transfer to their bank would be just fine with me. Thanks for your help.

yeah, honestly I don't think CNI will have issues with this. they handle money by the tens of thousands from companies. our purchases are pretty small by comparison. so while we are likely not a priority, they aren't going to be pulling the rug from our feet either. they are good about doing what they can while still keeping their company in good standing.

 

[gozert]

Re: PGL-III-C-589 GB-Payments stage.

We're probably fine with everything except skrill/moneybookers. They stole my money twice already, luckily it wasn't even 5$ both of the times.

 

[Down with Umbrella]

Re: PGL-III-C-589 GB-Payments stage.

I can go with the flow. Just let me know where and when. I have never dealt with CNI so I can't say how their payment system operates.

 

[gozert]

Re: PGL-III-C-589 80mW feeler

This person made 7 posts today within 3 minutes. Three of which were posted twice in different threads.

Yeah he double posted in one of my thread too. None of them make any sense at all.



Also, I found an interesting bit of information from Justin (Laserglow) about importing handheld lasers into Canada:

The regulations pertain to consumer product safety, not possession, so if you build it yourself and never give it to anybody else then the regulations cannot apply to you.

Since CNI is sending the lasers in 3 seperate parts, I doubt we will have any difficulties with the customs.

 

[10fenny]

Re: PGL-III-C-589 GB-Payments stage.

Well then. That makes sense. I guess we would be "building them"

 

[styropyro]

Re: PGL-III-C-589 GB-Payments stage.

Will the laser modules and hosts be shipped in separate boxes? If they are shipped separately there would be no problems, but if they are shipped together there may or may not be possible import issues into Canada.

 

[gozert]

Re: PGL-III-C-589 GB-Payments stage.

Will the laser modules and hosts be shipped in separate boxes? If they are shipped separately there would be no problems, but if they are shipped together there may or may not be possible import issues into Canada.

I believe not, but I wouldn't mind paying a bit more for shipping in separate boxes.

 

[styropyro]

Re: PGL-III-C-589 GB-Payments stage.

Yeah same here. If we are going through all the trouble to get these shipped to Canada and whatnot, might as well add one more dimension of security to make sure we get our beautiful 589nm. In all honesty, the host is really just a bonus as I'll probably have one of our skilled machinists here make a host for my module.

 

[10fenny]

Re: PGL-III-C-589 GB-Payments stage.

More power to ya styro! Im gonna be scared to just put batteries in the thing

 

[gozert]

Re: PGL-III-C-589 GB-Payments stage.

Yeah same here. If we are going through all the trouble to get these shipped to Canada and whatnot, might as well add one more dimension of security to make sure we get our beautiful 589nm. In all honesty, the host is really just a bonus as I'll probably have one of our skilled machinists here make a host for my module.

Hadn't even though of that. Might consider that too after I've received it.

 

[styropyro]

Re: PGL-III-C-589 GB-Payments stage.

I do like the idea of being able to toss the module in a host of our choice...but that annoying 5 sec delay will still be there. I think CNI may let us order our modules without the delay, so that is something that could be looked in to if we haven't overwhelmed nwfreefly with enough stuff already.

 

[gozert]

Re: PGL-III-C-589 GB-Payments stage.

I do like the idea of being able to toss the module in a host of our choice...but that annoying 5 sec delay will still be there. I think CNI may let us order our modules without the delay, so that is something that could be looked in to if we haven't overwhelmed nwfreefly with enough stuff already.

I think we already did that haha. Can't hurt to let CNI remove the safety delay though. Unless there are people that like safety delays.

On a side note, where did you get the host from your 6W laser made at? I'll be looking for something similar if I decide to put the CNI module in another host.

 

[olympus mons]

Re: PGL-III-C-589 GB-Payments stage.

I can ask about shipping 2 packages just keep in mind to do this may be more then twice the cost depending on if and how they insure them. We would also have to pay duty on both shipments. My personal 2 cents is this shouldn't be necessary as long as CNI packages all similar parts together I can't see any problem with a single shipment. In other words a bundle of 10 heads, bundle of 10 host shafts, bundle of 10 doo dads opposed to 10 bundles of all three components. Does that make sense?

Regarding 5 second delay. Is that feature in place because of a safety requirement of the FAA? Has anyone heard of them not doing this in the past? I don't mind asking CNI the only thing that I ask people to keep in mind is that its not easy to get all 9 buyers to reply to a question or a proposition. Contacting CNI is the easy part, making sure everyone is on the same page is the hard part. To make a change like that we would need everyone to agree and I don't have time to do that. We cant make a change in the laser operation without everyone's consent but if anyone wishes to PM every buyer and get their okay I will happily contact CNI and see if they could eliminate that feature. .

But yeah. the 5 sec delay is annoying lol! And TBH I think its dangerous. If somebody un-familiar with lasers turned it on and nothing happened their first instinct would be to look down the barrel of the "flashlight". BAM!!! direct shot to the eye when that delay finally fires.

 

[Robert S]

Re: PGL-III-C-589 GB-Payments stage.

My Hulk Ultra from DL has the same feature but it only takes 2 seconds to turn on, which im okay with.

I wouldn't care if the 5 sec delay was removed because its a bit long and would just be annoying.

 

[olympus mons]

Re: PGL-III-C-589 GB-Payments stage.

I emailed CNI today to get a shipping quote and to get their opinion on dealing with customs for shipping lasers in parts. Also asked them how they want to receive payments.