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making fog juice?

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Theres a thread going on in another forum about this and while i believe theres very valuable information being shared, i *think* the core questions arent being answered and people are being a bit too cautious (being said by a person who always wears goggles when operating lasers).

Basically someone is trying to make fog juice himself to play with his laser projector in his own garage, because he cant afford/cant find locally fog juice where hes at. Im in the same situation.

That thread is filled with warnings about the hazardous effects to humans/fogger if using the wrong ingridients which i personally knew because i think its common sense and got the point of from the first post. Yet theres no list of ingridients mentioned which can be used except "propylene glycol" which will be harder/as expensive to get for people like us in far away countries as real fog juice (yes, Ive checked ebay/amazon// and all possible shipping options).

Theres no answer whether glycerin, which is available in every pharmacy can be used (is safe).

So i've lost hope, is there anyone here who can answer this instead?

There are tons of tutorials on the internet about mixing distilled water (very easy to find) and glycerin (very easy to find) to get fog juice. Maybe they all dont know what they are doing, very possible, but maybe not.
So what's the case?
Are there other chemicals which can be used which can be found in pharmacy/other local places?

And please, dont tell me how "non professional" fog juice can leave dust/ look worse/ shorten the lifespan of the fogger (which is so cheap)/ smell worse.
I know that.
I just want to know what ingridients which arent very hard to find are safe to use. Thank you.
 
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I put a teaspoon of glycerin in a small metal pan and heat it with a candle. fills my room with fog in about 5 minutes, and I've never had any adverse reactions to it.
 
Exactly what these guys above are saying. I bent a spoon so I can put the glycerin on it, but also stand it up. Then I put a little candle underneath it and I had fog everywhere.

You can also look on YouTube
 
While I don't use it in a fogger, I get my PG from RTSVapes
Wholesale Kosher USP Propylene Glycol: Food Grade Gycol & Liquid PG

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oh, and glycerin from the pharmacy is more or less the same thing, but with added ingredients like scents and stabilizers or something like that. I wouldn't recommend it if you can order pure glycerin online. You also know it is only propylene glycol and not vegetable glycerin. Although, the ecig folks say VG makes more cloud than PG, it is thicker than PG, so it maybe might clog up a fogger? Or maybe at the dilution used in fog juice, viscosity may be a non-issue?
 
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I bought fog juice at a Guitar Center Store (I think they are only in Michigan). Try a music/instrument shop they carry tons of things for disk jockeys. few pictures so you see the ingredients.

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Incense smoke also works but to a lesser degree. It makes a 5mW laser very visible up to half an hour after the stick has burnt out and you get the advantage of the room smelling lovely.
 
An oil warmer also works very well, its just a candle holder with a glass plate above the candle. You can find them and an assortment of scented oils in some stores right next to the incense, and again you have the advantage of stinking up your place with a lovely smell.

Alan
 
My ex step mom burned those incense sticks all night one night and nearly choked me to death. To this
day I get angry every time I see one.

There are guitar centers all over the plane. They are based in California.

Glycerine works well. Drip some on a hot plate or coffee warmer. You could also throw a piece of thin
sheet metal on the stove and set it on low.
 
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thanks guys.

is there any evidence/study which proves inhaling vaporized glycerin is not harmful?
 
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I'd say there is plenty of evidence considering people drink it everyday in wine and it's used in all manner of
food products and probably ecigs as well.
 
Yes but those are different. if it goes through a fog machine it is exposed to higher temperatures which may change its properties or even turn it into different molecule(s).
Any chemists here?
 
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Changing properties and becoming different molecules are basically the same thing. I'm not a chemist,
but I did take a chemistry class in high school. Does that count? About the only reaction that can
happen is combustion, in which case the glycerin turns into CO2 and water. There is nothing to worry
about unless you are mixing the glycerin with some exotic reactive chemicals.

 
Cracking requires extremely high pressures and the presence of a catylist. If, even IF a few glycerin
molecules were to crack, you would have a few molecules of a harmless alcohol or ether. Nothing redox
is going to take place in the absence of a strong oxidizer or reducing agent.
 
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