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Flaminpyro ''Jeff'' M.I.A. ???

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Well shoot! I hope he comes back eventually. He has 5 hosts of mine as well as a flexdrive. I'd hate to lose those as well as him.
 





InfinitusEquitas said:
Uhm, as opposed to before when it was known that it was posted on this forum? :confused:

That section is a semi-private area, frequented by maybe ~50 people, the same level of confidentiality as with PM's or private emails doesn't apply but some does, so people are able to be a little more open and revealing than they are here.
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I see that I Pi$$ed you off by posting that even though I made
an effort not to indicate where exactly it came from as you did.

If it bothered you to this extreme why didn't you PM me and
let me know.. I would have immediately Deleted the Text but
instead you tried to show what a bad person I was for posting
it... :thinking:
It was not meant to Pi$$ you off but an attempt at humor that
obviously was not received by you as such...

Since by your posts I can now see that it is really a big issue
for you...
I apologize for posting that private and sensitive info from the
Vets section that makes you feel that I betrayed you with..
I was wrong to do it...
Again... I apologize..


Not that I care at all about that particular post (it's no secret on the open forum I like to drink, and go out a lot) but I figured you of all people would respect the bounds of confidentiality, given your own reactions in the past.
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Just to clear things up a bit...
What is in the Vets section and what goes on in PM or E-Mails are
two VERY DIFFERENT things... PMs and E-Mails ARE Private...
I don't expect any privacy or anonymity of the Posts I make in the
Vets section... It is still on the Forum for anyone to read with a
copy of the Password.

Not everyone that goes to a bar is a drunk though. If the same drunk keeps starting trouble with DIFFERENT people than maybe that specific drunk is the problem as opposed to everyone else... ;)
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I see you still didn't understand what I was trying to get across
about the Drunks (using your metaphor) in a bar...
I see that you are still under the impression that there was only
one Drunk.

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree...:yh:
And again.... I apologize for posting that sensitive information...:cryyy:


Jerry
 
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lasersbee said:
I see that I Pi$$ed you off by posting that even though I made
an effort not to indicate where exactly it came from as you did.

If it bothered you to this extreme why didn't you PM me and
let me know.. I would have immediately Deleted the Text but
instead you tried to show what a bad person I was for posting
it... :thinking:
It was not meant to Pi$$ you off but an attempt at humor that
obviously was not received by you as such...

Since by your posts I can now see that it is really a big issue
for you...
I apologize for posting that private and sensitive info from the
Vets section that makes you feel that I betrayed you with..
I was wrong to do it...
Again... I apologize..

Just to clear things up a bit...
What is in the Vets section and what goes on in PM or E-Mails are
two VERY DIFFERENT things... PMs and E-Mails ARE Private...
I don't expect any privacy or anonymity of the Posts I make in the
Vets section... It is still on the Forum for anyone to read with a
copy of the Password.
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You didn't piss me off, not even close. I found your action to be very inconsistent, with both your own past actions and reactions to similar situations.

Note I didn't and don't expect complete privacy there, just more than on the open forum.

None the less, sarcastic apology accepted :crackup:


lasersbee said:
I see you still didn't understand what I was trying to get across
about the Drunks (using your metaphor) in a bar...
I see that you are still under the impression that there was only
one Drunk.

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree...:yh:
And again.... I apologize for posting that sensitive information...:cryyy:

Jerry
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To take the analogy a step further, in the second to last incident, there may have been two drunks both equally responsible. I don't know, I wasn't there.

In the last incident I know there was just the one and he started trashing the place again for no apparent reason.

In most incidents it's the same exact drunk who start the fight by throwing a punch.

What is also consistent is that the same drunk is always in fights.

The point is, yes it takes two drunks to continue a fight, but only one to start it. After all, how would you react if someone throws sucker punch? Something tells me you wouldn't turn the other cheek.

When it's the same one time and again... that's called a pattern of behavior.

If the bouncers keep letting him do it... well... here's the definition for it...

Enabler - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
 
InfinitusEquitas said:
You didn't piss me off, not even close. I found your action to be very inconsistent, with both your own past actions and reactions to similar situations.

Note I didn't and don't expect complete privacy there, just more than on the open forum.

None the less, sarcastic apology accepted :crackup:




To take the analogy a step further, in the second to last incident, there may have been two drunks both equally responsible. I don't know, I wasn't there.

In the last incident I know there was just the one and he started trashing the place again for no apparent reason.

In most incidents it's the same exact drunk who start the fight by throwing a punch.

What is also consistent is that the same drunk is always in fights.

The point is, yes it takes two drunks to continue a fight, but only one to start it. After all, how would you react if someone throws sucker punch? Something tells me you wouldn't turn the other cheek.

When it's the same one time and again... that's called a pattern of behavior.

If the bouncers keep letting him do it... well... here's the definition for it...

Enabler - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
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I know for a fact that you don't like T_J... That's your
choice...

But I like both FP and T_J and most of the members
on this Forum and that even includes you....;)

This is where this DRUNK bows out on this issue...
But please continue on your own....:eg: :na::crackup:


Jerry
 
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lasersbee said:
I know for a fact that you don't like T_J... That's your
choice...
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Yup, that is a fact, I also don't like trolls in general though.

lasersbee said:
But I like both FP and T_J and most of the members
on this Forum and that even includes you....;)
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:crackup: Gee thanks lol! :gh:

lasersbee said:
This is where this DRUNK bows out on this issue...
But please continue on your own....:eg: :na::crackup:
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:crackup: Will do :beer:
 
lasersbee said:
I know for a fact that you don't like T_J... That's your
choice...

But I like both FP and T_J and most of the members
on this Forum and that even includes you....;)

Jerry
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yeah me too i like both and even planed on fp doing some machining for me but no money atm :(

it seems as though people try to put you on one side or the other just because i defend tj doesn't mean i dont like FP etc
 
bennett326 said:
yeah me too i like both and even planed on fp doing some machining for me but no money atm :(

it seems as though people try to put you on one side or the other just because i defend tj doesn't mean i dont like FP etc
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I'm not trying to put people on sides, but that is what happens when you have a polarizing issue, and you take a side by defending someone. In a conflict you can't claim to be neutral, and yet defend one, and not the other. Only thing you can do to truly stay neutral without taking sides is to stay out of it and offer support to neither.

The rules should be the rules for all, or for none.

If there are exceptions for a specific individual for some reason, they should be clear. If c0ld came on here and said "TJ is special" I'd drop the matter.

I wouldn't be happy and would consider it to be wrong, but I'd drop it, and it would be better than the situation now, so people know where they stand. It is his forum, and his rules after all.

Trevor said:
There are varying types of trolls. :whistle:

Trevor
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Yup, I'm only after those that fit this definition:

In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory,[2] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[3] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.
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Troll (Internet) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)

The ones actually living under bridges I have nothing against. Live and let live right. :tinfoil:
 
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Trevor said:
There are varying types of trolls. :whistle:

Trevor
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i made this cause it made me lol

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By the comments made on this thread, many of you have no clue what happened. I was going to post this on the TJ Banned thread, but it got closed.

I'm only writing this once, so pay attention.

Jeff has a "You're either with me, or you're against me" personality. This is why some of you have had really great experiences with Jeff, and some of you have had really bad.

Jeff and I where friends for a few years. Some of you will remember I was creating a map of his travels for him at one point. Then Moh decided to sell some simular items then Jeff. If you were there, you know Jeff lost his mind, and got banned for trolling Moh. Moh was also banned before that trolling Jeff. Jeff sent epic PMs about it. I made the mistake of saying I didnt have a problem with Moh selling anything, and I dont want to be in the middle of it. After that things changed. We bickered a lot on the forum, and where told to keep it to PMs, which we did. So I dont know why that fact we fought in PM has been brought up a few times like it was negative. We were doing what we were told.

We finally stopped. Then around a week ago Jeff made a comment in an old thread where I was kind of rude to a new member.

http://laserpointerforums.com/f42/green-diode-72234.html

Unfortunately the comment was deleted.

Jeff's second try, and my reply, was deleted too. This was the post I was originally banned for.

This was Jeff's 3rd attempt later that day.

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It was obvious what Jeff was doing, and all three attempts are what got him banned.

So all you guys who think I was the one who trolled first, and got Jeff banned, get that out of your head, because its completely false. Also it was insinuated they was more trolling PMs during this, and I can tell you there were none. I have no clue why Jeff started up again. We have not talked in months.

My last ban was because ALL the staff thought I trolled, and I'm standing firm I didnt. I'm not going to open this up to debate. Its over. Past this post I will not ever mention Jeff's name again. I just want to make clear what actually happened. I dont appreciate people talking about what they dont know. If you dont know what you are talking about, then keep it to yourself.

Peace all.
 
Thanks man.

Lets not turn this into a Welcome back TJ thread.

I know you guys missed me, and I missed you all too. Well, except for one person, but he never counted to begin with, so its all good. :D

I'm unsubscribing. Peace.
 
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