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FrozenGate by Avery

Does anyone accept payment not just from paypal?

Yeah, it's been a while now that even getting postal money orders you have to fill out paperwork if you get them over $1K or so. At least that's what I think it was. They wanted SSNs as well and I told them to shove it. Who the hell wants the government stuck up their ass every time they turn around?
 





Not FAIR I say- things get taxed TOO many times- once should be enough!!!
 
hakzaw1 said:
So Whats a host of a GB to do? any benifit to sending bank transfers under 600$ each-all to the same place with the same bank??
Prolly not.

it would suck for me to get charged tax for doing favors at no profit!
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Isn't that what con artists do with peoples' bank accounts, 200 transfers of $599 or so? Works for them!
 
USPS Money Orders
14.3.2 Redemption

All U.S. money orders, including military, may be cashed at any U.S. Post Office or bank. Subject to funds availability, money orders may be cashed by rural carriers. Any customer whose daily total of cashed money orders exceeds $10,000.00, irrespective of the number of Post Offices visited to cash the money orders, must also complete Form 8105-A, Funds Transaction Report (FTR), and show identification bearing the customer's photograph, name, and address.
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Although not stated - I think some areas like NYC may have a lower limit for the 8105-A, Funds Transaction Report, and I think that they can require the 8105-A for any amount if you "appear suspicious" (So don't go to the post office wearing your "FUCK THE POLICE" shirt, reeking of weed :) )

I used to cash a ton of postal money orders at my local PO. Never had any problems. Best to maintain good relations, don't show up an opening with $800 in MOs and expect them to empty the till. Wait until mid day.
 
Survival Laser accepts credit cards via a form that can be downloaded from the website and faxed, scanned and emailed or snail mailed.
 
Spartan X said:
buy a $600 item, own it for a bit, then sell it for $600...or even if you buy for $800 and sell for $600 and sell it at a loss...all your doing is changing a item back to cash....grrr
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Thats basically the same scenario as money laundering.

I'm missing it. So If I buy anything over $600 retail I have to file paperwork?
 
hakzaw1 said:
So Whats a host of a GB to do? any benifit to sending bank transfers under 600$ each-all to the same place with the same bank??
Prolly not.

it would suck for me to get charged tax for doing favors at no profit!
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Hi Len,
If you're just doing favors at no profit, then there is nothing to worry about as long as you keep good financial records. You only pay taxes on profit; however you do need to be able to prove there is no profit...ie keep the original invoices from your orders.
For instance if you wire $2000 to JL for a GB, then the wire transfer is proof of an expense in the amount of $2000, then when you get payment from people buying the items and it too totals $2000, then there is no profit and you have proof of it.
Of course you can also add in the shipping and any credit card fees to your expenses and if they for instance totaled $2100 and you only took in $2000 in payment, then you would have a $100 loss which could even help you at tax time.
The thing to remember is if you get a 1099, you must claim / show it on your taxes as it will flag an error at the IRS and they'll come and ask for their money, not now, but 2-3 years from when the intrested and penalties bloom to a much higher profit for them (speaking from experience in my younger days). If no 1099 is sent, you will still want to keep your paperwork/proof and file any gains/profit with the IRS or if you get audited, they will find deposits to your accounts and ask about why they were not claimed. A check sent to you from a family member for a Christmas gift is ok ok and overlooked as long as there are not too many, but if they see continuing deposits into your account you need to be able to explain them and have proof otherwise it will be considered 100% profit/income. I think the IRS can go back 7 years in an audit so that's why they say to save your records for 7 years.
The interest, penalties & interest on the penalties only accrues for the 1st 3 years I believe.

Bottom line, don't gamble & think an audit won't happen you and have your paperwork all lined up in case it does.

Of course, if people trust you and you take cash, then it's not really traceable in the financial system as long as you don't deposit it in a bank or go out buying houses and cars with cash; but as soon as take payment in a form other than cash or trade that has your name associated with it and your signature and goes through the financial system in any way, then you need to keep records showing the income vs. the associated expenses for that transaction.
Now that's a run on sentence
 
One other thing you may have to worry about is data sharing. If you have to use Schedule C to show that your 1099 income and expenses cancel out you can still end up owing local taxes. Where I live the city taxes GROSS sales, and they get copies of everyone's federal tax returns to look for people running home-based businesses. There is a $50,000 exemption, but you have to register with the city, and pay a license fee of course.

The govt knows a lot of people are out of work, and making ends meet on ebay or even running garage sales and they are looking for a piece of the action. One of my neighbors got ratted out for having two garage sales in one year, which counts as a business.
 
I love garage sales, especially in this city - lots of movie collectibles shows up because of all the has been actors around here.

$600 is moronically low limit.. One good used laptop, HDTV, or tricked out PC and you can hit that amount.
 
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