confirmed PL-E pro GB

[IWIRE]

I'm kind of like Shakenawake, I've made a couple of purchases and they both were so painless I don't remember how I paid. Seems like in one maybe both pp was involved someway. With the customer service Gray provides I'm betting he has a handle on the payment process.
I know ! I'll be the Canary in the coal mine ! All Gray has to do is get my laser ready ! I'll let everybody know how painless he made paying for it

 

[JETLASERS]

PP gifts aren't available in a few countries, including mine. I wouldn't mind that if they were.

Strangely our customs are *far* more likely to tax something if it comes from the US. I guess they just assume everything from China is cheap

Thanks Atomicrox. You are right. PP is more efficient. We also take credit cards through jetlasers.org if necessary.

 

[JETLASERS]

Here are some updates on the 3.5w 445nm diode in PL-E Pro series.
5W+, with fixed focus.
GB: Price: 620$
4W+, focus adjustable, coz more lens causes much power loss.
Price: 600$.

Thanks!

 

[Shakenawake]

Since the beam expander allows focus, I guess I'll get the 5W. don't need redundant functionality

 

[Atomicrox]

Thanks Atomicrox. You are right. PP is more efficient. We also take credit cards through jetlasers.org if necessary.

Cool, CC might be even better as it avoids the PP fees! Thanks

 

[hakzaw1]

Good deal-- I was only trying to give Gray the option of using PP or not- W/o going into details at least twice PP users have caused some issues- and the same goes for my postings about minors- Atomix I was not sure if you were CONUS as its not in your profile- I have always done CONUS buyers only --sending all others to Gray - so that is his call and i hope all realize that My intentions were and are that all are happy..

... the problems and new dangers with PP are the reasons for caution- I just did not see a way to say- 'PP is fine if you are a trusted ,returning buyer ETC- but if you are new- no way' I dont blame anybody but those that caused problems -- maybe I am just cynical in my old age- I was really saddened and then very angry to hear about how with PP's help JL got scammed- but I did not mean to take it out on the wrong people- so please accept my apoligy--if any member knows of a way to vet new buyers- or do something to keep Gray from being taken advantage of- please PM us -

V/R hak

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ProPL-E 445nm ~3.5- 4W $600 usd by Jetlasers - FEELER-
OR with fixed focus- w/ 5W 620.usd

1) Shakenawake-- black host, BE, AC adapter, holster. NO batteries, NO charger, NO safety glasses-5W-fixed focus
2)IWIRE--black host-- add JL BE.. ?holster?-- IIRC the holster can adjust to hold the laser WITH the BE
also in maybe for the BE , holster and ac/dc converter MAY ask for HIGHER CURRENT THAN WHAT THE OTHERS WILL GET. ( & UNDERSTANDS THE RISKS)
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ProPL-E 520 nm ~ 1W by Jetlasers - FEELER-
Price TBA ~$800usd
1)Atomix..
2)Raiden Gekkou
3) The Cube-- (may need to wait until Aug.. )
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*Other options:

Shakenawake-& IWIRE BOTH (may) want second battery tube to change look OR if possible to use TWO batteries for longer run time til recharge (0n BOTH the 445 & the 520).-- Only one AC/DC adaptor is wanted IF it works on both lasers

 

[Atomicrox]

Don't worry man, I know you have good intentions
Will PM you about the profile location thing.

 

[Shakenawake]

looks like JL added the 445 to the site, so I'm guessing it'll be something of a mainstay, until the next diode comes along. I'm going to ask a mod to move this thread to the GB section

 

[hakzaw1]

'I'm going to ask a mod to move this thread to the GB section'


Thanks that will be helpful--I have a thread there already but so far its only a link to this one....

Len

 

[Shakenawake]

I've been trying to find out how close the focal point can get to aperture with a BE on

 

[hakzaw1]

I've been trying to find out how close the focal point can get to aperture with a BE on

wish I had an answer i trusted--

for sure the 'sweet' spot will not be closer - as you prolly know-
the BE make the beam 'fatter' up close and extend the distance for t small focused spot-and also for sure trying to 'see' all this is impossible w/o eye ware-

I will attempted to do a test with the one I have here on a 445 Pro Ple as that should be the same== right? I already do think however that to get a tiny hot spot up close you should be using a lens(or two) not a BE-- I have a spare I am happy to send you-- it is two lenses inside a housing (plastic) and comes from the leftover optics of a kasio PJ == its part of the focusing train...& when i just held it in front the beam became VERY tiny and smoked anything it hit..

:wave:

 

[Shakenawake]

:gun::lasergun::takeit::drool:

looks like I'll be the first to procure...

 

[hakzaw1]

:gun::lasergun::takeit::drool:

looks like I'll be the first to procure...

ON A 445??

-- JL was not able to get many of the 520nm 1W diodes- but enough to build one and see how it turns out-- IMO waiting for a green may have its 'silver lining' in the possible lower price that may happen soon. I strongly doubt the diode price will go up. BUT ATM Nichia is being very 'controlling' on these..

There is now a thread for these two in the GB section--
len
:thanks::wave:

 

[Shakenawake]

I'm thinking the price listed on the JL site for the 1W 520 might be an error. if not, that's too rich for my blood. I had other plans for that diode anyway. it's going in my old dominator heat sink (copper)

 

[Shakenawake]

I think the 5W ones have just one lens, probably something close to a g lens. the 1.8mrad ones I think do use an additional lens. I went with the 1.8mrad 4.5W instead of the 5W

 

[hakzaw1]

afaik JL has never used any correction optics other than the standard lenses- in handhelds --maybe yes in thier labbies..

TOO rich?? for sure
wait and see the price drop-

also
that price included about every extra item they offer and some that they no longer want to ship (batteries)

The BE added is 99$

IIRC the 30$ shipping was also included in that price-

and at least one battery WAS (then) offered too and they are no longer selling batteries to USA buyers..

I recently got a chance to see in person a 3W 445 laser--before the most powerful i have seen in a handheld was <2W-- I must say 3W is VERY scary powerful-

Just thinking about some fool or youngster getting one of these opens all kinds of bad doors-

- and ANY member who does not verify the age of the buyer is a BIG FOOL- is doing the forum a great disservice just to Make profit-- If and when somebody gets injured and the laser was sold to someone is is NOT the age of consent

At that point in time
- you will NO LONGER be dealing with the buyer but his parent(s) AND/OR the lawsuit-hungry lawyers--

Pretty sure it would be very much like a store owner selling tobacco or beer to a minor-

It does NOT matter if the buyer seemed older

OR that the ID was a fake

OR that the buyer seemed to be very responsible

NONE of that means a thing- zero

I had a member contact me about ~ 1W laser
he was honest with me about his true age (refreshing, I MUST say)

I asked for his address and phone number ( needed for the shipper)

He sent the address but NOT the phone number.

Using the white pages phone book i got his home phone and was able to contact his mother- who said he was doing well in school and was mature for his age etc BUT as i told he I could ONLY sell to an adult and NOT to her son- she replied that she needed to discuss with DAD before any purchase was made--

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The member went elsewhere to buy--

Some high power lasers were purchased for him on his parents CCard
with or without their permission- (IDK which)

end of story-
for some reason a forced 'charge-back' followed- and the lasers were returned-
at the expense of the seller-(65$) and they are now used- (another loss)

there is a valuable lesson from this for all..

It is the RESPONSIBILITY of the seller to assure no laser is being sold to a minor.

A PITA for sure ...but NO way worse than a lawsuit--
If you ask (for Photo ID proof of age )in a nice way most will comply with your request & if they DON'T

Then just do not sell it...


not brain science or rocket surgery...IMHO