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Coming Out of the Closet! Hurra!

ARG said:
No offense man, but you kind of over reacted by sending him that PM. If you get a red bar, just take the hit and move on, it's not a big deal. There are no specific rules for leaving rep, if Jeff wanted to tell you his opinion with a rep rather than a post that is up to him.
Of course people don't appreciate getting a red bar, and that goes without saying. There's really no point in PMing someone about it unless you're looking for an argument.

You can't post a thread about a topic that is controversial in some places and expect everyone to agree with you.

No need to be making mountains out of molehills.

Just my two cents.
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Will keep that in mind. I just kinda blew it when i realized he was reporting me for something so stupid :(

I'm almost a vet, and i don't want to be banned now.

I told FlaminPyro earlier that i will leave him alone and create no further problems, although it seems like he will never talk to me again.

Oh well. I guess i will just get another member to buy silicone wire for me through him. It still would be messed up if he denied business though :(

Thanks for the advice ARG and TheDukeAnumber1

-Matt

Trencheel303 - I would rep you if i could, but i did this morning already :)
 
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KRNAZNBOY said:
I'm almost a vet, and i don't want to be banned now.

I told FlaminPyro earlier that i will leave him alone and create no further problems, although it seems like he will never talk to me again.
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I wouldn't worry about being banned, at least not if you've stopped talking to each other. Banning is only for when people can't stop themselves. :p
 
A not so gentle way to deliver the news to the parents?

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I feel bad for transgender people. let's say you are a man who feels they are a woman, get the operation, and try to get a regular man. I think very few "regular" men would be interested, myself included. even though I do not judge them, I would not feel like they were a "real woman" and would turn them down. I've heard stories of men being fooled by a trangender person, and being so mad they beat them to death with a fire extinguisher.

so what do the trangender people do? to me it seems like a lot of them end up going the suicide route. or get with a person who went transgender the other way, though I think woman to man changes are far less common than the other way, so this is unlikely. too bad they are not born as clownfish, then it would be no biggie. anyone that thinks homo***uality and other *** types other than straight are "un-natural" really needs to study nature more, because virtually every species exhibits at least some homo behavior, and it can get even more strange than that, like female surinam toads laying their eggs in the males back, or seahorses. I could go on.

this is a real strange thread, at first I thought it was a new member welcome thread, coming out of the closet as a secret laser enthusiast or something. I guess it was the regular kind
 
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Shakenawake said:
I feel bad for transgender people. let's say you are a man who feels they are a woman, get the operation, and try to get a regular man. I think very few "regular" men would be interested, myself included. even though I do not judge them, I would not feel like they were a "real woman" and would turn them down.
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There was a Two and Half Men episode I watched recently, that explored this exact scenario. Alan, (the main character as of late) ends up getting together with Paula. After they have *** he asks her about her ex husband, to which s/he responds that it's her, Paul.

He responds with some dismay, but doesn't really take any issue with it, and the relationship continues, albeit briefly.

Here's a link on an article about it: Op-ed: Two and a Half Men Introduces Trans Character, Manages to Stay Respectful | Advocate.com

Something that was a genuine surprise to me, on googling this just just, is that the actress is herself transgender(?)... Not something I realized until just now. Not 100% sure if this is accurate, here's the article that specifically references the actress as being trans gender: Two and Half Men?s Portrayal Of A Trans Woman Is (Shocker!) Not Respectful | Autostraddle

Here's a very NSFW link, in case you're wondering why I'm surprised to learn this: http://tinyurl.com/m3p9eqp

Personally I don't think my reaction would be quite as enlightened, in that I would feel I was lied to. At the same time I also recognize that this places a ridiculous double standard on trans women.

Hopefully medical science will advance in the future enough to permit a simpler change of the physical gender, and generally physical attributes, to eliminate this. In the scifi universe presented by alastair reynolds for example, the people were able to switch between gender, and essentially even species.
 
I've only known one person that is bi. There may be others that haven't said anything. I'm not against LGBT. All I ask is that you don't become one of those that pushes things to far. Take it easy if you ever tell your parents.

As for it being to early to say you are bi, it may or may not be. Everybody matures at a different rate. Of course it might also be a curiosity thing. You might not like it once you try it.

BubonicCronic said:
Either way you're in good company Krazy. The typical geek is gay-bi and an atheist. This is a geek forum. I think its safe to say 2/3s of the forum has sniffed a pickle or two. :crackup: I'm a vagina addict myself but as long as you're not doing anything to hurt someone all the power to you. Your parents will love you no matter what your preference is. I'm sure it may take them time to adjust. Make sure to give them that time.

I'm unsubscribing now. :na:
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I could believe the part in green. I'm not so sure about the part in red though. You can also count me out of the 2/3s.
 
So tell it to me Straight. If someone is to post a controversial topic on LPF whatever the subject then members are only allowed to leave positive comments? Or are we into BILATERAL opinions here?
It seems a bit far fetched Kanza that you seriously though that by coming out on the internet that it would not cause some kind of stir or were you counting on Political correctness being there to pull opposers up? I see another thread on this site that makes a mockery of peoples religious beliefs and individuals strongly opposing any form of belief other than their own but at the same time saying that everyone has a right to believe in whatever they wish!
So tell me, if the 2/3's here decide that 7+4 = 10 then anybody who disagrees is going to cop it for not towing the line???

Kanza it did take courage for you to come out, you needed courage because you knew many people would think it was wrong, maybe somewhere in you even thought it was wrong. I do not hate you for who you are but personally I believe that 7+4 =11

Cheers all and may Peace be with you.
 
only one thing binds this community, love for lasers. seems like a tough group to generalize about. not sure why OP would do this or why our thoughts on the mater are even relevant, but I think any idea subjected to a public forum is free to any response, which is one reason many religious people can get so easily offended on the internet. they are accustomed to not having their ideas subjected to questioning, ridicule, tests, etc., but are rather used to their beliefs and opions being on unassailable pedestals, thus, they can take it personally when you question their dogma.

what I am saying is it is dumb to submit an idea to a large, diverse group, and expect everyone to think its the greatest thing since sliced bread. everyone needs to get offended a lot less easily. or more easily, whatever.:poke::twak::scared:
 
I dont agree that what Flamin did was right though. Sure HE may have an opinion but it doesnt warrant putting somebody down... Flamin going off his "quoted messages" seems to be a bit homophobic which is okay but the way he responded to the OP was not ok. IMO this thread was created by the OP to see what reaction he would get by being honest so he can be ready for when he tells people IRL.
Hopefully we've helped you in knowing what to expect, obviously not everybody will agree with your "choice" but thats simply something you're gonna have to deal with.
 
Teenage years pretty much. qualify as a disease .

You are not capable of adult mature thinikng and you are not a child child---brain not fully connected yet--causes confusion

Enjoy life, sort it out as you go--plenty of adult time ahead to pigeon hole yourself as one thing or another as a social catagory.
 
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Yep you are all right. I can't see the future, and stuff could change. Then again, it most likely won't. I think it is bullshit to say that people under 18 can not make informed decisions because of brain development. I call BS on that.

@Busman2 and ShakenAwake - I NEVER said i only wanted/would accept positive feedback. Where did you get that from?

Feedback, if negative, should be left politely. This is common sense. I expected some negative feedback, but not like how it happened. I can forward you PMs if you want.

Please read the OP before making assumptions. Thanks guys

Once again, i expected mixed opinions, and i was OK with them being expressed. It was HOW they were expressed.

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-Matt
 
You said " I am a 14 (almost 15) year high school student."-right?

Nothing is set in stone at 14 much less are 14 yr olds capable of adult mature thinking, actions, and/or responsibilities.

Just enjoy your teen years -- you have a lot of time yet.
 
"Much less are 14 yr olds capable of adult mature thinking, actions, and/or responsibilities"

I don't agree, you can repeat that all you wan't. Just because you are all grown up doesn't make me inferior because i am younger. I may know less about the world, but it does not make me unable to make good decisions. And s3xuality is not even a decision, its a feeling, a mindset you were born with. NOT a choice.

I didn't come here for people to tell me i am lying to myself :p

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-Matt
 
Early on in this thread someone commented that you wouldn't encounter reactions on LPF that were representative of the real world. They were wrong.

You've encountered on this forum what I think is a reasonable reflection of what you're going to encounter as you move forward in the coming years.

  1. You've encountered a lot of support. By far, the overwhelming majority of feedback has been positive.
  2. You've encountered skepticism. People have suggested that you don't really know your own $exuality, that it's a phase, or that you're too young and may grow out of it.
  3. You've encountered "not in my backyarders". People have skirted the issue of whether they accept your orientation by suggesting that they just don't want to hear about it. Don't ask, don't tell.
  4. You've encountered blatant homophobia and bigotry.

Thankfully, our society has evolved to the point where most of the people you'll meet fall into category 1. That's what you found on LPF, for the most part, and I suspect that's what you'll largely find in the real world of 2014. Also thankfully, category 1 is the one that's growing. It's getting bigger by the day as people in the latter categories evolve their views with more exposure to the LGBT community, or just die off from old age.

In the 60's, someone could say "don't talk to me you ni**er", and while it would have turned heads, they would have gotten away with it. Now, in 2014, we're at a stage where even typing that word out, with no ill-intention, and with with plenty of starred-out characters, feels wrong. We're getting to that place with $exual orientation, but we're not quite there yet. Hence, someone can call you a "perv" for being bi, and probably not face a fatwa from society at large. However, we're certainly well past the stage where homophobic views go unnoticed by right-thinking members of society.

So my message is both congratulations, and toughen up.

The latter is meant as encouragement / motivation, not a dig. You're going to face bigots (and people whose views fall toward that end of the spectrum). I'd bet my life on it. It's not right, it's not fair, and it will probably suck in the moment. But it's there, and you should be prepared for it. Just remember that they're a small piece of the pie, and shrinking, and that they probably don't have a tenth of the balls you do ;)
 
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rhd said:
Early on in this thread someone commented that you wouldn't encounter reactions on LPF that were representative of the real world. They were wrong.

You've encountered on this forum what I think is a reasonable reflection of what you're going to encounter as you move forward in the coming years.

  1. You've encountered a lot of support. By far, the overwhelming majority of feedback has been positive.
  2. You've encountered skepticism. People have suggested that you don't really know your own $exuality, that it's a phase, or that you're too young and may grow out of it.
  3. You've encountered "not in my backyarders". People have skirted the issue of whether they accept your orientation by suggesting that they just don't want to hear about it. Don't ask, don't tell.
  4. You've encountered blatant homophobia and bigotry.

Thankfully, our society has evolved to the point where most of the people you'll meet fall into category 1. That's what you found on LPF, for the most part, and I suspect that's what you'll largely find in the real world of 2014. Also thankfully, category 1 is the one that's growing. It's getting bigger by the day as people in the latter categories evolve their views with more exposure to the LGBT community, or just die off from old age.

In the 60's, someone could say "don't talk to me you ni**er", and while it would have turned heads, they would have gotten away with it. Now, in 2014, we're at a stage where even typing that word out, with no ill-intention, and with with plenty of starred-out characters, feels wrong. We're getting to that place with $exual orientation, but we're not quite there yet. Hence, someone can call you a "perv" for being bi, and probably not face a fatwa from society at large. However, we're certainly well past the stage where homophobic views go unnoticed by right-thinking members of society.

So my message is both congratulations, and toughen up.

The latter is meant as encouragement / motivation, not a dig. You're going to face bigots (and people whose views fall toward that end of the spectrum). I'd bet my life on it. It's not right, it's not fair, and it will probably suck in the moment. But it's there, and you should be prepared for it. Just remember that they're a small piece of the pie, and shrinking, and that they probably don't have a tenth of the balls you do ;)
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So true.

I will stop bitchin now. Thanks guys.
 
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