Since you posted it...
Maybe the question should be....
"Are you willing to give up your life for that bull"...:thinking:
Jerry
Of course not, and you know it.
I'm not trying to make myself a big man by killing a bull in front of 50.000 people.
Also, no bullfights here either but that doesn't make it right anywhere.
Hmm.. read that again, and if you mean it, aknowledge you might have a problem...
Didn't I state that I was crazy? It should be on my profile. Well, I am, don't forget that.
However, you saying I have a problem doesn't mean I really have it (not denial, read above). I just care more about a bull that was locked in a "cage" and then released to be killed in front of a bunch of people than the guy that is going to kill it just for fun.
You're all taking things out of context and extrapolating to other cases, I didn't say any human should be killed for no reason instead of any animal. I'm just talking about bullfighting here, do not diverge.
Niko - Do you eat meat from animals you don't slaughter/raise yourself ? If so, you're "guilty" of supporting slaughterhouses and animal farming. Think about it, the methods used to kill the food you eat make bullfighting look humane. Also, as per recreational hunting, I generally disapprove of hunting "larger" animals but I don't care much for rodent-like animals. I'm not at liberty to condone or disapprove of bullfighting; IMHO, every culture has their own beliefs/customs and are thus entitled to them.
Yes! I eat meat. Dude I never said animals should not be eaten! I said they shouldn't be killed for funsies
Those are all simply some of the "lines" we have discovered when doing this exercise with students. People have different ones. The Can/Should/Must shifts are clear attitude "levels."
One of the interesting things about it is that circumstances can temporarily (sometimes permanently) shift a thing's position on the hierarchy. A person who would simply get up and leave if ants invaded their picnic will feel no guilt about using a chemical nerve agent on thousands of them or from feeding them a slow acting poison which they will carry back to feed their young, on any ants that invade their house.
People see no problem with pulling a "weed" and killing a plant, just so their garden will look prettier to them. However, these same people may chain themselves to an oak tree that has been scheduled to be removed to make room for required housing or roads.
People -- Ya gotta love 'em
Peace,
dave
Chuck's sake..
Do you actually think I'm a vegan hippie?
A plant doesn't feel. Also, ants don't either, they can die, etc. But their nervous system doesn't allow them to feel pain in the same way as we do. Same thing with lobsters and other animals (not mammals).
Haha just for fun:
I'm not at liberty to condone or disapprove of bullfighting; IMHO, every culture has their own beliefs/customs and are thus entitled to them.
So, say, Nazi Germany in '43. They had their "beliefs" and "customs", were they entitled to them?
See, ^ I've just turned this thread into a Hitler thread
God, those forum rules are so true