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This was blown way out of proportion. The concept has already been thoroughly explored and tested at long distances. The only thing different about this is that it was done using a satellite.

The thing about entangled particles is that there's no way to actually use the information shared between them. If one particle's wave function is collapsed, the output is random, and if the other particle is observed then it will exhibit properties opposite of the first particle, but it will still be random. The two observers still have to communicate their results classically before they can extract any information out of the observed state. While the particles do appear to communicate faster than light, QM will always have a way to prevent us from doing anything useful with it (aside from maybe encryption).

Good comment--very true--is scientists marketing and trolling for funding $s by blowing their findings way out of proportion.
No funding >>> no job security, no job>>> no pay/money, no pay/money >>> no food, fun, or anything else in life.


Most all of "quantum" anything---it is an entirely artificial framework/lattice---a human mind created tool that some find a useful tool in some situations, not an absolute or complete explaination or representation of how things really are in real world reality.
Quantum theory is just another way of looking at what you already know. Only what actually happens can happen ---there is no "probability" in the real world of any other outcome or anything else happening----the proof is what happened, happened.

As to use in communications --see interesting explaination "The Real Reasons Quantum Entanglement Doesn't Allow Faster-Than-Light Communication" here:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/chadorzel/2016/05/04/the-real-reasons-quantum-entanglement-doesnt-allow-faster-than-light-communication/#432141423ad0
 
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"Only what actually happens can happen ---there is no "probability" in the real world of any other outcome or anything else happening----the proof is only what happened, happened.
Hmmm.... I believe the problem here is language, it's such a loose tool, probability is a real thing. You are stating only what happens is what can happen, but it wouldn't have if it wasn't probable.

On another, please take a look at the avatar I uploaded for my profile today, strange how it seems to oscillate with a toroid kind of pattern which gets wider, at least on my screen, wider the faster I scroll the page. WT? I don't understand why the amplitude of the moiré pattern gets wider the faster I scroll.

Cool new avatar--yes can see same illusion.

Probability is a real thing in imagination --everything is possible in imagination--not so in the real world. Probability is imaginary--imagination at work.
My point is that only what actually happens has any probability of happening--real world. and proof of that is only what actually happened, happens--so to speak. Probability is a mathematicians and physicists game about an imaginary "possibility/probability".

Possibility/probability is more a article of faith in the same sense as religious article of faith, than anything else--a belief embedded in physics and the business/$ side of physicists.
Is similar to the concept of infinity which is deeply embedded in physics. The force of gravity, which extends to infinity is an example of it. Is the force of gravity verified experimentally all the way "to infinity"? Or is it an article of faith? Nobody ever probed infinity, obviously it can only be an article of faith.

To say everything that does not happen is a possibility or probability does not make much sense as a practical matter---at least to me-- but it is another way of looking at what you already know, which some find useful in certain circumstances.
This is especially so among scientists looking for $$$s to explore the unknown or what isn't and something to do. :crackup:

Bottom line: No matter what our human scientific theories are or attempt to explain, no matter what our human religions say or teach, reality remains a mystery. It's as simple as that!
 
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It's a mystery because it isn't so simple, me thinks.... thinks.... thinks.... Hmmm... a loop, can't find the answer to that one myself. I do know one thing, what can happen, will.

Agree and in spades, thus, Murphy's Law "whatever can go wrong, will go wrong.", SNAFU, 7 Ps the British Army adage for Proper Planning and Preparation Prevents Piss Poor Performance see USAF article : Commentary - Proper prior planning prevents pitifully poor performance, and there is Smith's Law: "Murphy was an optimist." :crackup:

There are a number of interesting pragmatic and humorous different takes on Mr. Murphy's Law:

"If that guy has any way of making a mistake, he will. Original phrasing by Edward A. Murphy according to George E. Nichols"

"If it can happen, it will happen. Precedent condensed by team members according to George E. Nichols"

"If there is a wrong way to do something, then someone will do it. Version attributed to Edward A. Murphy in "Murphy Lives!" by Robert L. Forward, in Science 83 (January-February 1983), p. 78"

"If there's more than one way to do a job and one of those ways will end in disaster, then somebody will do it that way. Version attributed to Edward A. Murphy in People Magazine (31 January 1983), p. 82"

"Anything that can go wrong will go wrong. Phrasing attributed to Major John Paul Stapp"

"If there's more than one way to do a job, and one of those ways will result in disaster, then somebody will do it that way. According to Robert Murphy (son of Edward A. Murphy, Jr.) his father's statement was along these lines; reported in People (31 January 1983), p. 82; alternately reported as "If there is a wrong way to do something, then someone will do it", in "Murphy Lives!" by Robert L. Forward, Science 83 (January-February 1983), p. 78; also commonly reported as, "If anything can go wrong, it will", in The Concise Oxford Dictionary of Proverbs (1982) edited by J. A. Simpson, p. 4."

"Anything That Can Possibly Go Wrong, Does Epigraph of The Butcher: The Ascent of Yerupaja (1952) by John Sack"

"Colonel Stapp's favorite takeoff on sober scientific laws — Murphy's Law, Stapp calls it — 'Everything that can possibly go wrong will go wrong' Lloyd Mallan, in Men, Rockets and Space Rats (1955), possibly the earliest printed use of Murphy's name in connection with the law."

"Murphy's Quantum Law: Anything that can, could have, or will go wrong, is going wrong, all at once. Paul Dickson, in The Official Rules (1982) ISBN 0099264900
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"If there are two or more ways to do something, and one of those ways can result in a catastrophe or pregnancy, then someone will do it."

See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murphy%27s_law
 
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Encap beat me to my whole argument of why this is a bunch of hyperbole. Can't even rep him yet either.

I think the whole "why does the universe exist?" is just an unapologetic ploy for donations. I found their arguments weak and put together in such a way, that if you didn't know any better, might persuade one to give.

Edit: I just now saw another whole page of posts. Dang.
 
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Yeah, this time they were asking for $2 each to see the next video. Whenever I am asked for money, it immediately makes me wonder what their motives were to begin with.
 
Did you see that robot lasing in the 2nd video without having to be right on top of the work piece? I mean variable distance on the fly, WOW, that's a 6 year old video, what they make now that we don't see. Somewhere in Russia that owner has a toy box that most of us would drool over for days.
 
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That is terrible GSS. Scams are bad enough but without risking life as well. :tsk:
 
Hi, Curtis. Haven't seen around lately. Have you been out of town? Nice to see you back.
 
Hi Paul, yes I've been rather busy lately. I have had only time to browse rather than post up until now. Just graduated and now it's the holidays. Anyway thank you Paul. :)
 


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