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FrozenGate by Avery

TRACKING OF YOUR IGORT's LASER ORDER!

Benefit of the doubt ?

Stretching it past all reasonable limits when 4 months has passed, isn't it ??
 





murrat said:
Jriga has deleted his posts but I don't think they can add up to 20 pages.
Has he left or banned from the forum?
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Left.  I was simply tired of defending myself against forum members who didn't like what I had to say, and felt it their duty to degrade, whine, kick, scream, negative rep, and anything else they could think to do.  Free speech isn't valued here, that's for sure.  And I had plenty of other things I should have been spending my time on, so I switched tracks and worked on my other hobbies.  I'm disappointed after those bitter arguments to return and hop back on the forum only to see the situation has not been solved.

I had this EXACT scenario play out when I bought a new Mac on eBay some years ago.  Highly respected Seller, 4,000+ positive transactions, very very few negatives.  Once the order was placed he communicated for weeks, and delays kept popping up that were just plausible enough to keep on the chain.  They ran out of stock, there was a shipping mistake, the funds had been held and will be release in '3' days, it shipped but to the wrong address... took 2 months before I finally realized that I had been taken.  I only recovered half of my money and ended up going after PayPal with an attorney.  It was a real mess...

I posted all I did about PayPal and banks because Igor's posts and few emails sound EXACTLY like the mess I had already been in.  The guy that scammed me never intended to.  He accepted a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round of orders.  He bought the Round 1 people's laptops with money from Round 2.  He bought Round 2 laptops with money from Round 3.  etc etc etc etc - he built a semi-successful business with this.  Enough to get to 4000+ transactions anyway.

The problem with this is that someone at the end has to get left holding nothing.  This Seller had some other issues with another business and his funds that he had accepted from me and others (which was just another round of orders to him) were seized - leaving him with no money and no way to give us our merchandise or our money.  With immense pressure coming from all over, he made the poor decision to skip town.  It was thanks to my, and other's, legal efforts that he was found and is now in prison.

When all this started with IgorT, it just FELT like it was happening again.  Much of the story above is easily transferred to this issue with Igor.  I don't have anything to add, other than what I added some time ago - so I won't pollute the thread any further other than to say I'm sorry to see this is still going on, and for many of you, I still believe your banks will help you out.

For you 'senior' members who want to bash and argue, do it via PM, not in-thread. Or just skip it? As it stands I've been right so far... and that is unfortunate. I'd much rather have stopped back and seen everyone's new laser photos and reviews.
 
Hey Jriga... what you posted is a lot easier to swallow... and I'm glad to see
you're still on the forum... 'nuff said.. 8-)

Jerry
 
Glad you are back, Jriga!
Since I wanted to know, I asked paypal.
You were right, and the senior members were wrong.
 
Hey Jriga you can say anything here. Don't leave the forum just because of peoples opinions.
You can be right about what you said and people can believe it or not. It's their choice ;)
Glad to see you again.
Igor can be a good guy or not but either way he has to send at least a post to the forum just to let us know how long more we need to wait!!
It is also hard to believe that people can trust that much even after waiting that long. He can have a top score reputation but this does not guarantee anything!
By the way lots of people ordered from Igor are new members or members who does not much posts.
This is the reason of our list having just 10 person at all.
Hope we will see a happy end SOON!
 
Welcome back Jeremy... :)

Glad to see your demeanor is much improved. I had a little time out myself ;D
 
Another week is passing.........

Still no reply......................... :-/ :-/


I guess the story behind this would be really interesting, I don't believe all lasers (at least 10 as recording in thread) has been lost or need to resend. That scenrio is hard to believe. Now I wondering if our lasers had ever been sent at all? Or even worse, had they even been made at all.......... :-[ :-[
 
i'm slowly losing hope here. 2 months since both my friend starhawke and i put in for our orders as part of batch #3.

it would make a world of difference if igor would post some kind of an update.
 
Sam7 said:
i'm slowly losing hope here ... part of batch #3.
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I'm sorry for all of us because we all really want[ed] to have one of his "masterpieces" but at least the batch 3 group didn't pay... .



Just imagine how you feel now & add an extra $260+ to that...  :o
 
Igor is now known for his good lasers and crappy customer service.

He have no neg-reps because nobody dare to put their laser in more risk.
 
i just got a reply from igor, he says that he get 2weeks off work to make all the orders that had to do and he also offer a free work for the long waiting time.

I still trust him and i think is working hard now.  
 
zavor said:
i just got a reply from igor
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Yes, he sent me a mail too.

I have asked him to post a SHORT status here at LPF as I feel it would carry more weight if he posted personally instead of asking someone he corresponded with to do so on his behalf...
 
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