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And you do not think that these statements prove that he was conning us?

3.O-like is only place where you want to buy O-like products and service . there is no sister website or brother website or apart of O-like . we have distributors .
4.All laser products on our site are outlet from O-like ,stocked ,packed,tested ,shipped(package with Susie's signature), warranty by O-like . . many customers can prove that .

All he did was ask to be a "distributor." They agreed because he never ripped them off AND that they get paid up front for any products he "distributes."

The rest of his hype is all BS. If you want to be a distributor, you can be one too. There are other distributors of O-Like products in the US already. You could be the central Croation distribution hub!

He isn't even a re-shipper. He is a drop shipper. You send him a dollar. He sends .90 to O-Like. O-Like sends you what you ordered. You paid him .10 to send the email and money to O-Like for you. Does that sound like what he was representing his company to be to us in these posts?

All of his verbiage was specifically designed to trick us into believing that he was the new US division of O-Like and that he was personally working with the owners of O-Like.

That was a gross exaggeration at best. I call it as I see it -- BS.

This is really all moot now. O-Like is NOT going to give up the direct sales from this forum to a distributor. The way he is advertising, if he truly is in the US, the FDA will be on him in a short while anyway

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dave
 
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Agreed 100% .
He did said it was a sister site of O-like. Which is false...

Well, sorry to see it end up like this.

One thing bothers me though, I don't think he is a drop shipper, as his prices are lower than O-like (unit + ship).

But anyway, it was a bad thing to do to advertise it like that,
I don't think you can have THAT much communication problems.

I don't think I can be a 'distributor' just by that principle...
A good distributor should stock up on most wanted merchandise, and selling it locally, saving the customers waiting time and online ordering, and giving some sense to 'distributing' business we are talking about.

Well, I guess it was too good to be true.
Sorry Lemon!

EDIT: Dave, I think he is in New Zealand IIRC, not US.
 

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Agreed 100% .
He did said it was a sister site of O-like. Which is false...

Well, sorry to see it end up like this.

One thing bothers me though, I don't think he is a drop shipper, as his prices are lower than O-like (unit + ship).

But anyway, it was a bad thing to do to advertise it like that,
I don't think you can have THAT much communication problems.

I don't think I can be a 'distributor' just by that principle...
A good distributor should stock up on most wanted merchandise, and selling it locally, saving the customers waiting time and online ordering, and giving some sense to 'distributing' business we are talking about.

Well, I guess it was too good to be true.
Sorry Lemon!
To be fair to you, I also have some info you do not. I figure that there is plenty of info already in the forum for this one. (No, I will NOT provide it to everyone because they want it)

I really do wish him success. I just absolutely abhor people "twisting the truth" to make a buck. He just can't do it here now. The internet is not my home. LPF is.

Peace,
dave
 

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I see your point Dave, and it is a good one.

I also wish him well in his business, just... not here :D

O-like is my favourite laser parts supplier from the moment I saw it, and Susie is very kind.

I heard ReNNo had major problems with RayFoss, so I just stay away. Although it seems they are also very good and resputable around here, regarding their 200mW green lasers $150 ones.

Kinda weird to call LPF you home (touching, but strange), what do you mean?
 

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One thing bothers me though, I don't think he is a drop shipper, as his prices are lower than O-like (unit + ship).
That makes no sense at all... IMO

1) only O-Like manufactures O-Like products that O-Like sells
2) it costs O-like money to ship their products to you or a distributor
3) it costs money for BeamCheap to buy the O-Like products
4) it costs BeamCheap money to ship to you even with Free Shipping to you

A) He needs to pay shipping from China
B) he needs to pay shipping to you
C) he charges no shipping costs
D) He is selling cheaper than O-Like
E) He needs to make money for BeamCheap to survive...

There is no way he is not Drop Shipping... he can't sell cheaper
than the manufacturer and pay the shipping twice and not
charge for it...

There is a huge difference for BeamCheap as a Distributor to sell
here or not...
By selling here... he is competing with Susie selling O-Like products..
This Forum is one marketplace with only so many apples in the barrel..

My LaserBee distributors do not sell on my Website and I don't sell
on theirs... That is how business is run...


Jerry
 
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I see your point Dave, and it is a good one.

I also wish him well in his business, just... not here :D

O-like is my favourite laser parts supplier from the moment I saw it, and Susie is very kind.

I heard ReNNo had major problems with RayFoss, so I just stay away. Although it seems they are also very good and resputable around here, regarding their 200mW green lasers $150 ones.

Kinda weird to call LPF you home (touching, but strange), what do you mean?
There is probably too much sentimentality associated with the word home. What I was trying to say here was that I do not consider myself the defender of the world against negative or deceptive business practices. I do feel a sense of community here that demands that I help to protect the members here from fraud and deception.

I will not chase him down, to force him to change. He is free to do whatever he can outside of my sight.

Also, I went back through and re-read just this thread again quickly. I found where he said he was from New Zealand. Thanks. It would take too much effort (for a done deal like this) to search and re-read through the other threads about him here to find what made me think he was in the US. The matter is virtually closed here for now.

I actually anticipate that any lasers already ordered will be up to O-Like's standard. They are coming from O-Like ;)

Peace,
dave
 

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@Jerry, makes no sense either ways, if he is drop shipping, he has to pay a buck or two from his own pocket to o-like when an order is made... right?

@Dave, yeah, I get what you mean. Most respekt for that!
 

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They don't have to resell o-like's anyway, coz o-like is just a reseller of several individual workshops around. You can not imagine how developped the manufacturing business in Guangdong province in China becomes these years, and even every family can run a workshop, and the cost of machining operation is cheap enough.

So I believe most of people in LPF can run the laser business much better in China, coz you're all pros, so welcome to China! :)
 

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They don't have to resell o-like's anyway, coz o-like is just a reseller of several individual workshops around. You can not imagine how developped the manufacturing business in Guangdong province in China becomes these years, and even every family can run a workshop, and the cost of machining operation is cheap enough.

So I believe most of people in LPF can run the laser business much better in China, coz you're all pros, so welcome to China! :)
Dude do you hate china or somthing.. I have seen all your 10 posts and there just about how china is bad or somthing like it...
 

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Dude do you hate china or somthing.. I have seen all your 10 posts and there just about how china is bad or somthing like it...
Hey man, you're so mistaken. I'm a Chinese, and i love it too much to hate it. And just say something objectively. You may share the similar thinking if you've lived here all the years, maybe not. Never mind.
 

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Lol sorry, I probably miss read. I just thought it was alittle strange, sorry.

:beer: :)
 




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