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Arayan

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In effect it is the first time that I hear it, and it would be also interesting to know the other laser specifications.
 

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Probably,this follow those researches from army and police that built tools like "flashlights" (but a lot more big :p), that had arrays of RGB leds and emits flashing patterns (around 10 KHz, IIRC) for disable and disorient opponents in riots .....

This seem the same principle, just applied to lasers, more efficent and long range :p
 

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Yup, I read about something called a "dazzler" recently, which can actually make you nauseous if you look at it. Lasers would be strong enough to have an effect even if your eyes were closed. Shine this at pirates on the verge of sea-sickness and it would be pretty debilitating while still not lethal.

I'm all for the non-lethal. Bullets have too many consequences.

Cheers, CC
 

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I'm all for the non-lethal. Bullets have too many consequences.
Consequences? You mean like the elimination of a threat, one at a time? Sounds good to me.

Those pirates that take over ships and terrorize the crew don't deserve "non-lethal" means. Kind of the same idea about a robber who breaks into my home at night and wants my money. He won't be met with non-lethal means, either. More like a few hollow points to the chest. Criminal acts don't deserve friendliness.


Now, along the lines of this thread, this kind of reminds me of the directed-energy heat pulse Active Denial System....
 

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Yup, I read about something called a "dazzler" recently, which can actually make you nauseous if you look at it. Lasers would be strong enough to have an effect even if your eyes were closed. Shine this at pirates on the verge of sea-sickness and it would be pretty debilitating while still not lethal.

I'm all for the non-lethal. Bullets have too many consequences.

Cheers, CC


I have felt first hand the effects of the LED dazzlers it does make you naseous and completely disorients you. Your will to do anything but avoid it is gone... Verry effective IMO.
 

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Usually, i will be in accord with the use of non-lethat force all the times that is possible ..... but there are some limits and situations that just don't permit you to do this, sometimes .....

If one treat me, and my life or the life of my parents are not in danger, then welcome to non-lethal defense ..... but, if a pirate point an RPG to me where the others shoot kalashnikovs all around, putting in danger me, and all the ones that are around, the LESS thing that they can expect back from me is the same type of treatment .....

Is not question of being bad persons ..... is just question of proportions ..... as in that case, when the passengers made the pirates go away, throwing them chairs and so on ..... it's ok, they gone and none was injured, i think, so no need to shoot them ..... but, what if the pirates start to shoot the passengers and kill someone ? ..... at this point, no more remorse, just shoot in reply, and don't stop til they all surrend or die .....
 

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Problem is, how do you know for sure whether a pirate (or robber, etc) is going to use non-lethal force on you (or anyone) in the first place? Especially if they're holding lethal weapons (RPG, firearms, knives). You don't. You can't wait until after they start killing people to decide which methods of defense are perfectly appropriate. By then, it's too late.

If the threat to someone's life is real and obvious, shoot first. That's the law, at least here in Delaware. You need to have a fear for your life before the use of deadly force is justified. If these pirates (or robbers) have guns drawn, or are pointing an RPG, then that's justification to shoot them first.

But, I think we're going off on a tangent here. Sorry OP for the thread hijack.
 

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Lasers are for landlubbers....show em the plank I say! ohh arrr
 

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I heard the dazzler was not really effective. Oh well, this could be good at long range. But my philosophy is a pump action full of cracker shells and beanbags, not an expensive laser deal that might break on you. Hell, I would even trust a tippman 98 custom full of capsaicin paintballs than some experimental electronic on the sea LOL
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Well, then, you can start with dazzlers, but keeping the miniguns ready, so if they start to shoot, you can wipe them out :p

BTW:

If the threat to someone's life is real and obvious, shoot first. That's the law, at least here in Delaware.

Unfortunately, here in Italy is different ..... first, you have to left them shoot for first (otherwise the law don't recognize you the self defense), then, you can shoot back, but trying to stop or disable them without kill (otherwise the law, also if you can call the self defense, charge you for "excess of self defense" and still jail you)

And for make the things worse, if they shoot you and kill some of your parents, and in the moment that you shoot back, they turn and you hit them on side or back, you become charged for intentional homicide, cause for the law, if the assaulter was not in front of you and you hit him on side or back, it mean that you intentionally killed him when he had already stopped the assault and was going away.

And no, it's not a joke, just one of our (too much) idiotic laws :mad:
 

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I feel soorry for any state in the US that hasnt passed the castle law. Look it up sometime ;)
 
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By reading the article, I understand that the objective is not to confuse them, but to blind them. Look at how he says "it's like looking at the sun". If that's the whole purpose, I can't understand anything. The pirates will know where you are anyway, and even if they can't directly look at you they can still follow you.

And well, they say it has a "blue laser". Then it can't be a 10kW laser, most likely something under 1W, which would suit what he said about a "2 miles range".

All in all, I think there are much better ways to flash a boat than using a 100k$ laser -.-
 

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All in all, I think there are much better ways to flash a boat than using a 100k$ laser -.-

As far as i remember, times ago on a catalog i've seen a high efficency halide lamp mounted in the focus of a parabolic mirror (it was a single element) ..... adsorbing 1 KW, it was stated for 1,5 MILLIONS of candles (yes, 1,5 millions) ...... and the demo pics was showing four of these lamps, mounted on the corners, illuminating a football stadium near daylight (and if you look at the usual football stadiums light banks, you know what it mean :p)

But they stopped the production, cause some accidents due to the "too much high light flow" from a single point (sight problems and half blinded peoples for having looked directly the lamps).

Now, i'm wondering about a pair of those lamps used as deterrents ..... may be enough to change the curvature of the reflector for get a cone of 4 or 5 degrees, instead the 45 degrees of the originals, and put a fresnel lens in front of it, and probably you can use them for cause to the pirates also some sunburns, not just sight problems, LOL (and at a cost decisely more low than that using high power lasers, they was costing like 200/250 Euro each one)

The only problem is that the lamp require 2 minutes for turn on (so you have to argue with the pirates for at least 2 minutes for gain time :p :crackup:)
 




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