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Was playing with the idea of a raffle on this thread.
http://www.laserpointerforums.com/forums/YaBB.pl?num=1192204888/20#20

High Octane said:
A bit of a twist to the original idea.

Another way to manage this fund:
1. Members send money to SenKat or other forum mod. Money goes into LPF Review Raffle fund.
2. LPF orders a laser using friends, family, some not so well-known name and address.
3. Laser is reviewed.
4. If it is a nice unit, up to spec, something the members want it can be placed up for a Raffle.
5. Those members who contributed to the Review Raffle Fund will have their name added to the Raffle.
6. Proceeds would be used for crappy units that are not worth keeping, and used for the next purchase and any restocking fees that apply.


This could be called the LPFRRF :)

I believe this method will generate more interest and therefore more funds.
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What do ya think about this idea?
 
Other part of the thread before the suggestion morphed into a raffle: http://www.laserpointerforums.com/forums/YaBB.pl?num=1192204888/20#20

Shilood said:
Very well said. In order to truly review a company and their products, you absolutely need to review them while being treated like one of their many customers. Then you get a representative sample, and if there are issues, representative customer service.

I wonder how many members are interested enough in a particular laser to put some money up for a truly representative review? I would be willing to send money to (a forum mod) as part of a "review fund," sort of like buying shares in LPF. If 25 people sent $10, there would be enough money to review greens in the 100mw range and below. (Of course it would take more interest to get our hands on blue lasers or higher power samples which is where lots of the interest probably lies.) It would at least give a more accurate snapshot of a company and their CS reviewing lasers we could afford, and that information would still be useful when members choose a company to trust for a higher end purchase.

One way to manage this fund:
1. Members send money to SenKat or other forum mod. Money goes into LPF Review fund.
2. LPF orders a laser using friends, family, some not so well-known name and address.
3. Laser is reviewed.
4. If it is a nice unit, up to spec, something the members want it can be placed up for auction.
5. Those members who contributed to the Review Fund can bid first, starting bid = purchase price.
6. If no takers, all membership can bid. Starting bid would be the price paid by LPF less 15%.
7. If the unit is crap, it goes back (probably costing 15% restock fee.)

Every laser LPF reviews could have the potential of costing the Fund a restocking fee (providing we can't get the company to agree to waive fee if the laser fails to perform.) That risk has to be born by those who contribute. If it isn't up to stated spec, we of course have the option of pressuring the company to refund 100% by revealing the purchaser's affiliation with LPF as a reviewer. The fund donators would have the option of asking for a return of their donation (minus operating costs from restocking fees etc.) For myself, I would consider the donation an entertainment expense ;)

This same concept could be used for a special purchase rather than a general fund for reviews. If enough people really want a 9mw blue or something, once enough members post their interest in a GB style post, money is solicited, laser purchased, reviewed, auctioned or returned, remaining money returned if no one wanted the laser.

This idea might be too much of a headache to implement, but hooefully it provoked some thought.
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The raffle idea is interesting...
 
High Octane said:
Was playing with the idea of a raffle on this thread.
http://www.laserpointerforums.com/forums/YaBB.pl?num=1192204888/20#20

[quote author=High Octane link=1192204888/15#20 date=1192385891]A bit of a twist to the original idea.

Another way to manage this fund:
1.  Members send money to SenKat or other forum mod.  Money goes into LPF Review Raffle fund.
2.  LPF orders a laser using friends, family, some not so well-known name and address.
3.  Laser is reviewed.
4.  If it is a nice unit, up to spec, something the members want it can be placed up for a Raffle.
5.  Those members who contributed to the Review Raffle Fund will have their name added to the Raffle.
6.  Proceeds would be used for crappy units that are not worth keeping, and used for the next purchase and any restocking fees that apply.


This could be called the LPFRRF  :)

I believe this method will generate more interest and therefore more funds.
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What do ya think about this idea?[/quote]
That is the perfect idea IMO for new raffles. I really hope we can use this idea.
 
me toooo
the work would be pretty minimal for a mod
just keep track of money donated
buy laser ---> raffle ---> send laser

have a button somewhere "Paypal Donations"  ;D

+ the mod will have something cool to play with ;)
 
More raffles, you say ? FUNNY you should mention that ! I was planning on hosting another raffle soon - do you think there would be any interest in it ? A couple of WL Phoenix (one NICE one, one...eh...a little below their average) and some other goodies....
 
ixfd64 said:
We should also have free random drawings. :D
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SURE we should ! I'll PM you my address to send donations to :-) hehehehehehe !!! I HAVE given out free items in the past, but am now dirt poor....actually, I think ROCK poor is more like it, as in the form BEFORE dirt....hehehe !

Naw, I ran out of stuff to give away, and am not a company, so cannot do giveaways any more :(
 
I don't think we need to worry about fees for returning any laser, with these raffles.
If the laser isn't good enough for whatever reason, we contact the company, tell them it's not good enough so we want a replacement or you get a bad rap among laserists!
Companies will usually go above and beyond to avoid bad publicity, and if they don't, then they will be exposed as bad customer service and the laser can go into a lower prize in the raffle!
 
LPF should have a way of evaluating lasers and companies independent of the fear the company sent a "well above spec" sample for review. If that means a LPF Review Fund some of us donate to or a Raffle Fund, I'd be happy either way. I think there are members here who would love a chance to bid at auction or buy raffle tickets for any laser we decided not to RMA because it was at or above spec and a beautiful sample.
 
SenKat said:
More raffles, you say ? FUNNY you should mention that ! I was planning on hosting another raffle soon - do you think there would be any interest in it ? A couple of WL Phoenix (one NICE one, one...eh...a little below their average) and some other goodies....
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I would be interested!

Anyone else, Speak Up!!!!!
 
SenKat has run several raffles here and all have been above board. Everything is as advertised or better and the drawings are on video. We all know the odds and I say "let it happen".

Mike
 
I'd be in for a few tickets, I love laser raffles. Some day I'm gonna win, even if it is in 2030, I'm gonna win one!
 
IMO it needs some sort of qualification process. It should be drawn from a select group and not all of the 5000 members, many of which don't come anymore. Spomething simple like a thread to post in maybe?
 
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