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LRMNmeyer

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I went on the DX website and looked at one of the class 3B lasers and it said this, in addition to the other warning:"United States Customers Only: due to new regulations enforced by the US FDA and PayPal, orders of >5mW lasers units shipped to the United States are no longer accepted. Orders that were previously accepted and unshipped will be cancelled and refunded to customers. This affects United States orders only." I don't even have a laser yet. :'( And now it looks like I might have to stick with DIY's. Anyone know if they're serious? :-/
Edit: Kaidomain doesn't have it... yet.
EditEdit: :D KD has the Romisen L-A030 Mini Green Laser.
 





Yeah, I could, but if for some reason I don't get into the hobby, not to mention my parents wouldn't let me spend my money on something thats 'a cheap, dangerous toy'. :(
 
well its only dangerous if you use it wrong, if you take all the precautions its perfectly safe !! they would probably let you buy it if you could prove that you knew a lot about them, and that you knew what safety equipment to get.
 
The problem is that they don't know about lasers. My mom still thinks all types of radiation cause cancer (only nuclear does) and my dad thinks that if we buy it and they confiscate it, they will track it to our house and arrest me/him. I wouldn't even be using it indoors anyway, 30mW wont burn.
 
30mW is eye safe as well, well as long as your careful you wouldn't need goggles(trust me I own 3 30mW lasers), and if thats the case tell her she would get cancer from radio waves and normal light from the sun ! My parents thought the exact same, my dad already knew a little about lasers, my mum didn't, but anyway. They won't track you down and arrest you either, no one here, that I can ever recall has been arrested for owning a laser !
 
Well that isn't good, now the value of all of the DX lasers floating around will go up. Luckily I ordered a dilda with DX points before this new rule. But now I don't know how to spend my other DX points without lasery goodness, I may just have to ask for cash instead.

For Canadian members, you guys could make a couple bucks being DX distributors to the US... ::)
 
Diachi said:
30mW is eye safe as well, well as long as your careful you wouldn't need goggles(trust me I own 3 30mW lasers),
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This is a very dangerous thing to say to a minor who is apparently very new to lasers.


30mW CAN and WILL cause permanent damage to your retina. It CAN and WILL cause permanent (if only partial) vision loss. It is not "eye safe", but used responsibly you can significantly reduce the chances of hurting yourself with your laser, even without protective glasses. It is a personal choice whether you choose to use protective goggles when using a 30mW laser, or any laser for that matter. 30mW it relatively weak compared to other available handheld lasers and there is a good chance that, if you use it responsibly, you may never cause permanent damage to your retina or another person's retina. But the potential is still there, and to dismiss that potential out of hand is irresponsible.



TO the OP: Remember, people on here are not giving you legal advice, and few are experts in laser and radiation safety. Ask advice, sure, but seek information and come to your own decisions/conclusions when it comes to your safety and legal ramifications for your actions. If you're getting into the laser hobby, it is extremely important for you to learn all you can about using lasers safely. Also, the proper terminology is that "ionizing" radiation can have deleterious health effects such as cancer, whereas laser light and other electromagnet waves we encounter are "non-ionizing" radiation. "Nuclear" radiation could easily be misinterpreted as things other than what you mean.
 
i bet that means only paypal purchases.

dont take my word but i still think its pretty much another way to cover themselves but if you order without paypal i have a feeling it would make it
 
I've had a laser confiscated by customs, it wasn't a huge deal but I did need to send them an email and have it returned to sender.
 
LRMNmeyer said:
Yeah, I could, but if for some reason I don't get into the hobby, not to mention my parents wouldn't let me spend my money on something thats 'a cheap, dangerous toy'. :(
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A.  "Get in the hobby"?  WTF, if your not, get out while you still can!  It's a gate-way drug!  ;D
B.  DX is cheap, but lasers are not dangerous, and there not toys just as an RC helicopter is not a toy, but it can be dangerous if misused.  Simple logic and understand can persuade any open minded person...
C.  Parents are always out for what they think is best for their children, maybe you should just respect their wishes (especially if you younger then 18) and just wait it out.  
D.  I'm sure there will always be plenty of methods to get even the cheap DX lasers to your door.   ;)
 
pullbangdead said:
[quote author=Diachi link=1219172368/0#5 date=1219173562]30mW is eye safe as well, well as long as your careful you wouldn't need goggles(trust me I own 3 30mW lasers),
Click to expand...

This is a very dangerous thing to say to a minor who is apparently very new to lasers.


30mW CAN and WILL cause permanent damage to your retina. It CAN and WILL cause permanent (if only partial) vision loss. It is not "eye safe", but used responsibly you can significantly reduce the chances of hurting yourself with your laser, even without protective glasses. It is a personal choice whether you choose to use protective goggles when using a 30mW laser, or any laser for that matter. 30mW it relatively weak compared to other available handheld lasers and there is a good chance that, if you use it responsibly, you may never cause permanent damage to your retina or another person's retina. But the potential is still there, and to dismiss that potential out of hand is irresponsible.



TO the OP: Remember, people on here are not giving you legal advice, and few are experts in laser and radiation safety. Ask advice, sure, but seek information and come to your own decisions/conclusions when it comes to your safety and legal ramifications for your actions. If you're getting into the laser hobby, it is extremely important for you to learn all you can about using lasers safely. Also, the proper terminology is that "ionizing" radiation can have deleterious health effects such as cancer, whereas laser light and other electromagnet waves we encounter are "non-ionizing" radiation. "Nuclear" radiation could easily be misinterpreted as things other than what you mean.[/quote]


I beg to differ, it is perfectly safe as long as you are careful about reflective surfaces, I have had many reflections from my 30mW lasers, and my eyes are still FINE, the only actual problems I have with my eyes is the fact that I need glasses, now I only say 30mW lasers are eye safe because there is LITTLE chance that you will receive eye damage from an exposure lasting 0.5 seconds, you can however receive damage from longer exposures. But unless you intentionally shine a 30mW laser into your own eye (It would be too bright to hold there for long), your blink reflex will protect you some anyway.

Now I am NOT saying that you, or anyone else shouldn't be careful with ANY laser >5mW, because of course you should, I am only saying that for lasers between 5 and 30mW there is little risk of PERMANENT eye injury unless you are deliberately shining it in your eye, but just remember:

Be Careful
Don't shine it at other people,
Don't shine it at vehicles
AND FOR GODS SAKES DO NOT SHINE IT AT PLANES !
 
styropyro said:
Well that isn't good, now the value of all of the DX lasers floating around will go up. Luckily I ordered a dilda with DX points before this new rule. But now I don't know how to spend my other DX points without lasery goodness, I may just have to ask for cash instead.

For Canadian members, you guys could make a couple bucks being DX distributors to the US... ::)
Click to expand...
I'll get rich.
 
pullbangdead said:
[quote author=Diachi link=1219172368/0#5 date=1219173562]30mW is eye safe as well, well as long as your careful you wouldn't need goggles(trust me I own 3 30mW lasers),
Click to expand...

This is a very dangerous thing to say to a minor who is apparently very new to lasers.


30mW CAN and WILL cause permanent damage to your retina.  It CAN and WILL cause permanent (if only partial) vision loss.  It is not "eye safe", but used responsibly you can significantly reduce the chances of hurting yourself with your laser, even without protective glasses.  It is a personal choice whether you choose to use protective goggles when using a 30mW laser, or any laser for that matter.  30mW it relatively weak compared to other available handheld lasers and there is a good chance that, if you use it responsibly, you may never cause permanent damage to your retina or another person's retina.  But the potential is still there, and to dismiss that potential out of hand is irresponsible.  



TO the OP: Remember, people on here are not giving you legal advice, and few are experts in laser and radiation safety.  Ask advice, sure, but seek information and come to your own decisions/conclusions when it comes to your safety and legal ramifications for your actions.  If you're getting into the laser hobby, it is extremely important for you to learn all you can about using lasers safely.  Also, the proper terminology is that "ionizing" radiation can have deleterious health effects such as cancer, whereas laser light and other electromagnet waves we encounter are "non-ionizing" radiation.  "Nuclear" radiation could easily be misinterpreted as things other than what you mean.[/quote]

Yes, I know that it would cause damage, and I knew it would be impossible to get an unbiased answer. I've lurked here for a long time, I would of made an account, but I would never get the confimation email.  And Ace, when I said 'silly, dangerous toy', that is what my parents said, I understand that they are not toys. Ace, I would agree with you on c., but it's not for legit reasons, it's because my mom thinks they cause cancer. I just might order from KD, they have the exact same model, and they both don't have quality control, so no complaints there. ;D And since they're based in the US, my dad feels better about ordering from them. :)
 
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