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My DIY Repair of a 2.5W LaserBee USB LPM *SUCCESS*

Rivem

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EDIT: Success! Wasn't really planning to get a laser power meter any time soon, but the project seemed intriguing and was a good deal. It panned out, and now I've saved a lot on an LPM that should suit my needs well. :D

For the details on the repair, there were three problems I had to fix:

1. Wouldn't connect to a computer.
For this problem, I popped the device open and immediately saw the terrible USB cable. The conductors were unusually thin and very brittle. Cables like this easily break due to odd angles and movement. I confirmed with a continuity test with my multimeter. The only reasonable solution is a replacement. Cutting an old cable and soldering it onto the USB contacts did the trick, but I'd advise carefully making sure you solder things in where they're supposed to go. The original conductor colors weren't the standard, but they were close enough to guess. I've left mine in a temporary state so that I can eventually put in a female USB mini connector.

2. Connected to a computer but driver failed in Windows 10
This problem has been fairly common recently, and I figured it would be the case when I saw the generic USB to serial board. The issue is that Windows 8 and onward marked a change from drivers being mostly managed by the users and PC OEMs to being almost entirely managed by Microsoft automatically. This made using most peripherals a lot easier since drivers don't have to be manually installed any more, but it also allowed manufacturers to push whatever drivers they wanted onto consumers. USB to serial controllers had serious issues due to the companies FTDI and Prolific making drivers that wouldn't work with (destroy in FTDI's case) the fairly common counterfeit chipsets found in many peripherals with Chinese manufacturing origins.

Anyway, the fix isn't too bad. Just search around for information on counterfeit compatible Prolific PL2303 drivers, and manually install one. They'll be an older driver from before the anti-counterfeit features. Install it, find the device in your device manager, and update the driver to the older one. Be careful not to get yourself a virus though. FYI, the PC might revert to using the newer driver if you connect to a different USB port.

3.Noisy readings without zeroing or any clear curves
This issue was a little confusing at first, but I discovered there were serious jumps if I moved the TEC sensor around. I figured it was the cable considering how the USB was, and sure enough, there was way too much resistance and loss of continuity depending upon the position. I fixed this one using the original connector on some spare RJ-174 Coax cable which barely fit the old connector just perfectly. It's a lot beefier and less resistant than the original cable, but the numbers don't seem too far off. That stabilized the numbers and gave good zeroing.


Photos:
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The LPM electronics are on the left with the TEC cable coming out, and the counterfeit USB-Serial controller is on the right with the tentative USB setup until I can order my connectors.

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The bump is from my inability to see the laser dot through my safety goggles and trying to take a picture. :p


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I bought a broken 2.5w Laserbee that wouldn't connect to a computer from JLM. It was a good deal, so I figured I'd give it a shot.

Right out the box, I noticed the USB cable was absolutely terrible. Worst Chinese cable I've seen in a while. I broke out the continuity tester, and sure enough, it's broken on 3 out of 4 conductors. As a test, I could easily split the conductors with a pinch.

There were some really bad solder joints on the boards I ignored, but they looked functional enough. I didn't want to risk it without my good gear.

I cut an older, unused donor cable and soldered it in. Connection to the Prolific USB-Serial device was immediately successful.

I've read about how these don't work with Windows 8 and 10 drivers, and I'm interested to see how I can get around it for myself. Still working on it at the moment since I can't quite get Peregrine to even start on my laptop yet. I also can't decide if I should replace the hardware or just work around the driver. Stay tuned for updates and photos.

Edit: Got it working and connected to Peregrine. :D
There's an issue in the TEC cable as well though. Readings are all over and noisy. I'm thinking it's the solder joint between the tec leads and cable.
Edit 2: Another very poor quality cable. There's high resistance on both conductors, and continuity is lost with bending. I'll have to replace it, but I think I've got some that'll suit it just fine. That's a project for tomorrow.

Edit 3: Just found a little bit of spare RJ174 and soldered it up as a replacement TEC cable. Have to run some errands, but I'll test it tonight.
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Re: My DIY Repair of a 2.5W LaserBee USB LPM

Hi,
Great deal on the LPM and a fixer upper to my 7W Laserbee works fine with Windows 10 . My wife had her laptop and said it was old and slow so the wheels started turning and bought her a new one. Well after a couple jours of cleaning the entire unit back i use it for just my Data logging on my bench it was set up for win 7 now its win 10 works fine with the LPM.

Rich:)
 
Re: My DIY Repair of a 2.5W LaserBee USB LPM

Hi,
Great deal on the LPM and a fixer upper to my 7W Laserbee works fine with Windows 10 . My wife had her laptop and said it was old and slow so the wheels started turning and bought her a new one. Well after a couple jours of cleaning the entire unit back i use it for just my Data logging on my bench it was set up for win 7 now its win 10 works fine with the LPM.

Rich:)

This one is older, and it appears to have a counterfeit Prolific chipset. Window 8 and 10 actively manage drivers, and the newer one that controls Prolific devices has anti-counterfeit measures, so it doesn't work right off the bat.

All I did was find an older driver online and manually installed it.

The newer LPMs either use a genuine chipset or one that escapes anti-counterfeiting measures more easily.

This is actually a pretty big issue with computer peripherals since W8 came out.
 
Re: My DIY Repair of a 2.5W LaserBee USB LPM

This one is older, and it appears to have a counterfeit Prolific chipset. Window 8 and 10 actively manage drivers, and the newer one that controls Prolific devices has anti-counterfeit measures, so it doesn't work right off the bat.

All I did was find an older driver online and manually installed it.

The newer LPMs either use a genuine chipset or one that escapes anti-counterfeiting measures more easily.

This is actually a pretty big issue with computer peripherals since W8 came out.

USB cable on mine is terrible too - still works, for now at least. Easy enough fix when it does eventually break. Good to know about drivers - will need to try it out on my W10 machine!

As for counterfeit chips - that's a common problem with both the Prolific chips and the FTDI chips it seems. Sometimes it's hard to tell the difference apparently. FTDI had the same anti-counterfeit measures, caused quite a stir with a bunch of folk when that driver came out.

Thanks! :yh:
 
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Re: My DIY Repair of a 2.5W LaserBee USB LPM

Great job Rivem! Looks like the LPM went to a worthy candidate ;)
 
Re: My DIY Repair of a 2.5W LaserBee USB LPM

USB cable on mine is terrible too - still works, for now at least. Easy enough fix when it does eventually break. Good to know about drivers - will need to try it out on my W10 machine!

As for counterfeit chips - that's a common problem with both the Prolific chips and the FTDI chips it seems. Sometimes it's hard to tell the difference apparently. FTDI had the same anti-counterfeit measures, caused quite a stir with a bunch of folk when that driver came out.

Thanks! :yh:

Glad I could help a bit diachi. It's been a fun little project. :)

Yeah. I've dealt with this problem quite a bit since my unwilling switch to W8 a few years ago. Prolific's drivers just won't work, but FTDI's will literally brick the chipset for good occasionally. I had a few USB to Serial devices that were rendered completely unusable with the update. No way to fix them without a genuine replacement, but the devices were luckily cheap Chinese stuff.

Counterfeit chips like that are actually pretty common in any peripherals made in Asia since suppliers are even hard for OEMs to distinguish. Luckily, replacing the chip with a genuine one or bypassing it is pretty straightforward in USB to serial controllers if you lose an expensive device. Still not cool of Microsoft to push those updates on users.

Great job Rivem! Looks like the LPM went to a worthy candidate ;)

Thanks ElectricPlasma. Sorry I had to cut you off from it. :D
 
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Re: My DIY Repair of a 2.5W LaserBee USB LPM

Hahaha. That did it. :D
Data looks very good now.

I'm bumping to ask if anybody knows how these things zero. By changing the TEC cable to something beefier (less resistive), I've surely affected the voltage and current of the detection side of the system.

I've done a few tests, and they all seem a bit low, but I wasn't being too careful. I'd expect them to be a bit high, so maybe it's not an issue. Any thoughts?
 
UPDATE: Finished the repair and was successful :cool:
I'm going to leave the connections unfinished until I get my next parts order in to clean it up a bit.

The numbers seem okay now that I've tried some more recently metered lasers.

I added a photo detailing the inside a bit.
 





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