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Mac vs PC - Let's Keep it Civil.

laser_freak said:
I currently have a Unibody MBP from late 2008 that has recently started to degrade at a surprising rate. Many of the keys intermittently work, the trackpad mouse gets stuck down in the "clicked" position, and worst of all it has overheating issues. When I opened it up, there was too much heatsink compound on all of the heatsinks. While it was open, I also found out that one of the RAM sticks was not seated correctly. I later found it was due to a broken plastic piece.

I should also mention this is the second replacement I have had. Both replacements occurred during the first year of ownership and were both because of faulty GPUs.
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Interesting. One of the pro Mac/Apple arguments that I've head was strictly regarding tighter quality control. I guess that doesn't always hold true.

Since I never really used Macs outside of one job back in college, I always built/modified my own computers.

One category that does seem to fall more to Apple/Mac is style. I really can't argue with that. Personally though I always preferred function over style (except with girls;)).

Edit: Linux is very popular for running servers.... I don't think Apple/Mac do anything for servers at all do they?
 
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I'm taking a chance at fanning the flames but...
I absolutely DESPISE the Windows operating environments. Every upgrade that automatically assumes more & more about what you are trying to do and how you want to do it.
If it wasn't for soooo many programs being primarily for the windows systems I would be a solid Linux user with reliable freeware apps doing what I want. (Much like the system where I work.)
So this means my history, like many others, has been forced over to PC. And who has time to learn all about a new OS and the details about how it works with the hardware ?
(Perhaps my reluctance is somehow related to the knowledgable postings in the other threads concerning alcoholic beverages...):angel:
 
@ShortyInCanada

I'll disagree somewhat. I used Windows 95, 98, 2000, ME, and by far for the longest time, XP pro. Vista was a clusterf*ck, I really don't know a single knowledgeable person willing to argue otherwise. In reality Windows 7 is what Vista should have been.

In using all these versions, they do all require tweaking, killing some services and processes that do nothing but cause problems. Also I have never trusted the automatic updates - I go through them one by one.

For someone who just wants to use a computer without having to worry about the details, apple/mac is definitely the easier way to go. Windows does require some rudimentary adaptation.

Linux... well that's a whole other story.
 
Apple® - MacBook® Pro / Intel® Core™ i5 Processor 2.3GHz/ 13.3" Display / 4GB Memory / 320GB Hard Drive - $1,199 retail.

Lenovo - ThinkPad Edge Laptop / Intel® Core™ i5 Processor 2.67GHz/ 15.6" Display / 4GB Memory / 320GB Hard Drive - Black - $579 retail.

If someone can explain the $620 dollar price difference, I would be obliged. I could see the Macbook Pro being $800-$850, but come on...

I understand that macs more commonly get better battery life, boot faster, better customer support, harder to get viruses if you don't know how to secure your computer, etc. etc. But my main gripe with their laptops is price.
 
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Lotus_Darkrose said:
If someone can explain the $620 dollar price difference, I would be obliged.
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Marketing. It's the one area where I really have to hand it to Apple, they are head and shoulders above competitors.

I'm curious to see how things shape up if/when google gets into the game though. ( Mean with desktops and the Chrome OS. )
 
Everything I've heard so far is it's not really a full operating system. Very limited and boots straight to web browser (like internet tv). I really haven't taken the time to read up on it much though so maybe you know more than me.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Chrome_OS

Actually seems more like android/ipod-esque.
 
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Well, from what I've read Chrome OS didn't really do that well in testing for replacing regular PC use. You're exactly right in that it is essentially limited to booting and going online. What google discovered is people still like to have programs on their computers... not in the cloud.

In theory with very high speed internet, you really wouldn't need anymore than internet access. The problem is, people don't live in theories, so chrome OS direction has been changed towards tablets, since tablets are used for internet more than anything else.

I'm still hopeful that google will get into the traditional OS business, but I know that it's not likely to happen.
 
Well, I have been using Computer for over 20 years... from Phones to PC, to Mac, to some linux/unix distribution. Things are moving faster than light speed recently. I used 9,600bps Modem, and then 14,400bps... and now, look at all those ADSL and Optical Fiber everywhere. So I will say, I am very much experienced with computers.

I have heard some of you say some of the OS are incomplete... but to me, all the OS are incomplete... look at all those upgrades and extra softwares they have or needs...

Asking Mac vs PC or other OS is like asking "which laser is better?" which wavelength, which power, which lens ... all those need to put into account.

Then again, it's all about your needs... you really wouldn't need a 1W green laser (Or inferred laser for that matter) to do presentation in a small classroom in school... So it has a lot to do with the user :)

All the OS in the market has it's own market value or market needs... otherwise it will or would have been disappears. So I think doesn't really matter what we think, because as long as it's still in the market, it means someone needs/wants it, as long as someone needs it/ wants it, it will appears good for them.

I think most electronic watches we have nowadays with multi functions have an operation system in it. Or at least some will just call it a firmware, but it does what we want it to do :) .... and a Window, or Mac might not be able to... but it certainly doesn't mean this firmware is better than Window, or OSX.... well, it's just what we need :) so I think as long as it can do what we wanted, it's good... because so far there isn't an OS that will do everything we wanted it to do. (And hardwares for most computers are pretty slimier)
 
^^^To sum this post up, for those who don't feel like reading it, it says "It's all a matter of opinion".

This is basically for saying what you like better, or what aspects of one you like better, without completely trashing the other. Just say what one you like best and why, or something lol.
 
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Lotus_Darkrose said:
^^^To sum this post up, for those who don't feel like reading it, it says "It's all a matter of opinion".

This is basically for saying what you like better, or what aspects of one you like better, without completely trashing the other. Just say what one you like best and why, or something lol.
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I agree, we all like different things, that is what makes us different.

Picking which computer, laser, it's like picking girlfriends, I guess it won't be good if we all like one woman.


By the way, suddenly remind me of the people in star track... they are all in white, look exactly the same, and their actions are all exactly the same... and they feel the same too, so when one man eat, al the others can taste it.... but I couldn't recall their names, Any ideas ?
 
Bynars I think...

Uhm I just realized you might also be thinking about the borg, but they aren't all alike, although that's a common misconception.
 
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With the exception of the original series, which I keep meaning to get around to and have on DVD... I've watched every episode, many more than once:undecided:

Well, I guess it was only a matter of time before I had to come out of the star trek closet:p
 
I used to watch Deep Space Nine. That's as far as my Star Trek watching goes. I think I've also seen the Borg movie.
 
InfinitusEquitas said:
With the exception of the original series, which I keep meaning to get around to and have on DVD... I've watched every episode, many more than once:undecided:

Well, I guess it was only a matter of time before I had to come out of the star trek closet:p
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Lotus_Darkrose said:
I used to watch Deep Space Nine. That's as far as my Star Trek watching goes. I think I've also seen the Borg movie.
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Lotus_Darkrose said:
Never watched Star Track before. Of course I'm not into running :D
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InfinitusEquitas said:
Bynars I think...

Uhm I just realized you might also be thinking about the borg, but they aren't all alike, although that's a common misconception.
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I am pretty sure it's not the Borg, it was a very long time ago... and their clothes are white, and the whole set is white too, I think one of the main character give one of the "white man" something to eat (I think chocolate) and when he Chew, the other guys also chew (just in action), and then they all tasted it. I think it's from Star track, but I am not 100% sure.


I think I am getting this thread off topic... sorry about that :bowdown:
 
Well my Macbook pro is all 3 and I use all 3 for different purposes.
But I primarily use Mac.
 
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