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Looking for cheapest functional LPM (laser power meter). Will this one work?

Hi, If your in the market for a reliable LPM get it from Laserbee LPM's you won't be sorry you purchased the LPM from him. They are top quality and he knows how to build them the right way. Dont go buying from some fly by night its a recipe for disaster . I have purchased many LPM's from laser bee never an issue and you will have it forever.

Rich:)
 





The reason that I ask "what minimum beam diameter at what max power" is
to know the max Power Density of your coating that you claim is 7Watts.

Our lowest power LaserBee AX is rated at 3.1W and in the instructions it
is stated that a minimum beam diameter of 3mm at maximum 3.1W is
the maximum power that our sensor coating for that LPM can take without
damage. That is a realistic 45.2 W/cm2.

If we use your stated expanded beam size diameter of 12mm at your stated
Max 7watts... that would make your Max beam density only 6.19 W/cm2...
or at a 3mm diameter beam a max power of 433mW could be applied before
your coating would be damaged (using your information).

If we used an expanded beam diameter of 12mm as our beam diameter on
a Laserbee AX we could in effect state a max power of ~51 Watts instead
of our realistic 3.1W rating.

Using Power Density allows one to compare oranges with oranges...

We purchased a brand new NIST traceable Coherent LPM so that we can
accurately calibrate our LaserBee LPM products. Our LaserBee LPM products
are not sent to NIST to be calibrated.

Asking us to send you a Free of Charge LaserBee LPM so that you can have
a reference to calibrate your LPM just doesn't sound logical to us.
You are however welcome to purchase a LaserBee product at any time.

Jerry
I see. you are trying to insult me, that's not very nice of you, or is it.. I am just a hobby guy and I like and enjoy doing what I do, not any different then you nor anybody else.
you always have a chance to act fairly and honourably but showing signs of jealousy is not realy a good sign, or is it /
I have never insulted you nor I was mean towards you.
You being jelous as you are is good only for the reason of demonstration of weak side of yourself , you feel unstable , uncertain, and thretening, do you not. if you don't sir , then why you are attacking me and insulting me when simply you can say a few nice words instead..

you took some numbers to come up with some wrong calculation using unknown factors...

I did not tell you minimum beam nor I told you maximum beam, I only said that that is the maximum size of the beam that can cover the sensor.. you know that your sensor is NO different to mine and maybe i make a video of LaserBee teardown just to inspect the art of electronic components used..

In regards to you answer to sending me one.. you answer was jealous too.. are you afraid of something ?
I do not need your meter is it not Ophir good enough...

LaserBee looks and even more looked just like a hobby laser power meter no better they my prototype , right , or not..
showing that you are simply jealous has done me just a favour and I am going to thank you sir Jerry for that.

it means that it's worth of showing everyone that you are reacting to it wrongly, by showing your personal jealousy towards me
when simply you could just say: WELL DONE LAD, it's really nice to see that some individuals make such nice things..

and I would say Thank you sir Jerr from J Bauer Electronics

but instead you decided to show some of lowest lines of human character instead..

Thank you Jerry and I admit you have insulted me right to the ground... but all that just gave me more credits .. so thanks..

Please let's leave all further conversations and more jealousy, let's leave it or I will not simply replay any more just to start being polite first..
you have shown your face and it wasn't ok...

I see you acting exactly the same when a girl is watching another guy and you come to guy when she is around and say something to lower him.. but girl still loves that guy.. or does she not ? so what do you do.. what ?

change the plate.. rather become friends, you have more chances.. or don't you think Not ?

Jerry your schematic uses only one battery I use 2 x 9v battery.. you do not have potential using your circuit in split supply configuration to reach those measurement 9v / 2 =4.5v taking into account you are not using rail to rail opamp so less 1v 1.3v that is your max if you split battery exact on half.. now that can be adjusted a bit I guess so get a slightly higher range but not a lot.. I am right.. on 9 bv battery you will never reach 7w or near.. you are not able to simply read that high I can surely read 5W without damaging the sensor and guy tried 7w on my previous one but meter could not read that high, yet sensor was not affected by it.. and it worked just fine.. that is the true fact of actual test.. this one can read max output of 7098W but I can not test it as I have no laser of that power at hand.. I am so sorry about that Jerry..
ps...
Maybe I will consider giving one away for free if people express them self wishing to have one... by replaying to this post.. and I will draw one out and send it free of any charges demonstrating my good gesture towards hobby like people that do thing because they like and enjoy to do them.. ...

 
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I see. you are trying to insult me, that's not very nice of you, or is it.. I am just a hobby guy and I like and enjoy doing what I do, not any different then you nor anybody else.
you always have a chance to act fairly and honourably but showing signs of jealousy is not realy a good sign, or is it /
I have never insulted you nor I was mean towards you.
You being jelous as you are is good only for the reason of demonstration of weak side of yourself , you feel unstable , uncertain, and thretening, do you not. if you don't sir , then why you are attacking me and insulting me when simply you can say a few nice words instead..

you took some numbers to come up with some wrong calculation using unknown factors...

I did not tell you minimum beam nor I told you maximum beam, I only said that that is the maximum size of the beam that can cover the sensor.. you know that your sensor is NO different to mine and maybe i make a video of LaserBee teardown just to inspect the art of electronic components used..

In regards to you answer to sending me one.. you answer was jealous too.. are you afraid of something ?
I do not need your meter is it not Ophir good enough...

LaserBee looks and even more looked just like a hobby laser power meter no better they my prototype , right , or not..
showing that you are simply jealous has done me just a favour and I am going to thank you sir Jerry for that.

it means that it's worth of showing everyone that you are reacting to it wrongly, by showing your personal jealousy towards me
when simply you could just say: WELL DONE LAD, it's really nice to see that some individuals make such nice things..

and I would say Thank you sir Jerr from J Bauer Electronics

but instead you decided to show some of lowest lines of human character instead..

Thank you Jerry and I admit you have insulted me right to the ground... but all that just gave me more credits .. so thanks..

Please let's leave all further conversations and more jealousy, let's leave it or I will not simply replay any more just to start being polite first..
you have shown your face and it wasn't ok...

I see you acting exactly the same when a girl is watching another guy and you come to guy when she is around and say something to lower him.. but girl still loves that guy.. or does she not ? so what do you do.. what ?

change the plate.. rather become friends, you have more chances.. or don't you think Not ?

Jerry your schematic uses only one battery I use 2 x 9v battery.. you do not have potential using your circuit in split supply configuration to reach those measurement 9v / 2 =4.5v taking into account you are not using rail to rail opamp so less 1v 1.3v that is your max if you split battery exact on half.. now that can be adjusted a bit I guess so get a slightly higher range but not a lot.. I am right.. on 9 bv battery you will never reach 7w or near.. you are not able to simply read that high I can surely read 5W without damaging the sensor and guy tried 7w on my previous one but meter could not read that high, yet sensor was not affected by it.. and it worked just fine.. that is the true fact of actual test.. this one can read max output of 7098W but I can not test it as I have no laser of that power at hand.. I am so sorry about that Jerry..
ps...
Maybe I will consider giving one away for free if people express them self wishing to have one... by replaying to this post.. and I will draw one out and send it free of any charges demonstrating my good gesture towards hobby like people that do thing because they like and enjoy to do them.. ...

Wow... You sound like a butthurt child.....

1) I did not attack or insult you.. (but things can change). If you feel
that way then you have a problem (or perhaps it's a language issue).

2) You seem to have a superiority chip on your shoulder.... Not a good
trait here for a guy with 5 Posts to his name.

3) Now blatantly attacking me, my company and our products is not
the way to go...

4) Your Girl/Boy analogy shows your age..................

5) I stated facts as you relayed them...
If you can't understand the simple arithmetic in my calculations using
your own data then you have another problem...

6) Stating on eBay (and here) that your LPM is a 7W LPM is not only
false and misleading but WRONG. It is a 433mW LPM with a sensor
that has Power Density of 6.19W/cm2 and you are misrepresenting
it as a 7W LPM on eBay where we sell a 45W/cm2 LaserBee AX as a
realistic 3.1W LPM....

7) I see by your indignation that you also have no idea what Power
Density is.

8) There is a big difference in your and our Thermopile Sensor designs.
We have our TEC made for us and our LaserBee AX Sensor's damage
threshold is 7 time greater than yours... even though you copied our
choice of Thermopile Head design.

9) Better people than you have threatened and tried to dissect our
products and show it's weaknesses over the past 12 years.
Like I said previously... you are welcome to purchase any of our
LaserBee products just like we have with good LPMs built by others.

10) Are you pulling that LaserBee schematic Mumbo-Jumbo out of your
A$$ ??? Because I can see you have no clue as to how we supply our
circuit or what type of parts we use.
Just because your Digital Display (a Volt Meter) can read 7089 does not
mean your LPM is rated at 7W.

Please don't send a free one to me... If I want one I'll buy it.
I already know how yours works. We started with a similar circuit 12
years ago and designed something more reliable ans accurate.

Talk about true colors..... If anyone is jealous... it is obviously you.
(walking away shaking head)


Jerry
 
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Wow... You sound like a butthurt child.....

1) I did not attack or insult you.. (but things can change). If you feel
that way then you have a problem (or perhaps it's a language issue).

2) You seem to have a superiority chip on your shoulder.... Not a good
trait here for a guy with 5 Posts to his name.

3) Now blatantly attacking me, my company and our products is not
the way to go...

4) Your Girl/Boy analogy shows your age..................

5) I stated facts as you relayed them...
If you can't understand the simple arithmetic in my calculations using
your own data then you have another problem...

6) Stating on eBay (and here) that your LPM is a 7W LPM is not only
false and misleading but WRONG. It is a 433mW LPM with a sensor
that has Power Density of 6.19W/cm2 and you are misrepresenting
it as a 7W LPM on eBay where we sell a 45W/cm2 LaserBee AX as a
realistic 3.1W LPM....

7) I see by your indignation that you also have no idea what Power
Density is.

8) There is a big difference in your and our Thermopile Sensor designs.
We have our TEC made for us and our LaserBee AX Sensor's damage
threshold is 7 time greater than yours... even though you copied our
choice of Thermopile Head design.

9) Better people than you have threatened and tried to dissect our
products and show it's weaknesses over the past 12 years.
Like I said previously... you are welcome to purchase any of our
LaserBee products just like we have with good LPMs built by others.

10) Are you pulling that LaserBee schematic Mumbo-Jumbo out of your
A$$ ??? Because I can see you have no clue as to how we supply our
circuit or what type of parts we use.
Just because your Digital Display (a Volt Meter) can read 7089 does not
mean your LPM is rated at 7W.

Please don't send a free one to me... If I want one I'll buy it.
I already know how yours works. We started with a similar circuit 12
years ago and designed something more reliable ans accurate.

Talk about true colors..... If anyone is jealous... it is obviously you.
(walking away shaking head)


Jerry


Fine , Look I am going to stop this, you are right.. all of it.. now please leave me alone.. I am 44 years old and not a kid...
Also circuit you saw is pretty simple one and not in this very last laser I made. those PCB boards I made in china probably same as you and that circuit is nothing like the one you mentioned. first circuit was very simple rather testing the principle of it.. But thank you for saying your circuit was something like mine at first, , mine was like that at first too, but not any more. and my first ever LPM I made was probably good 10 years ago Jerry. that video was an old LPM I made a long long time ago by the way... so it circuit evolved over that time too.. a lot practice and tests give a better picture over the time , and we learn a lot more, so did I too..

you said:
3) Now blatantly attacking me, my company and our products is not
the way to go... i
f you look at my first post was not directed to you not I said anything bad about you.. You have came to me, not me to you.. please note that sir..

Answer.. I have never contacted you nor I asked you to start it all first.. Why did you act like that towards me , not me towards you.. ask yourself and do not put it on my back like I started contacting you , I am not jealous.

may I ask what did I do to you when you are so angry as a person, if you are not why are you carrying on and on with this.. have a nice day , sell your meters , don't insult others that do the same and have a great day.. Once again I repeat sir I am not a kid just because I call you sir, it's just being polite, hope you understand that in right way and not misunderstand or misinterpret it.. I personally wish you all the best despite how you portrayed yourself.. (not very pleasantly , and certainly not nicely) however, you have demonstrated even more that you are jelous..

was someone like that to you when you made your LMPs at the time or it's just you being as you are to me..

You Said:
8) There is a big difference in your and our Thermopile Sensor designs.
We have our TEC made for us and our LaserBee AX Sensor's damage
threshold is 7 time greater than yours... even though you copied our
choice of Thermopile Head design.


Answer: Ohhh my dear Jerry, you took some chines heatsink and put some Tec on it , with some coating, which I had so many at hand so I used them, why not , I still have a bunch of them in draw,,and it's you design, my dear.. you are more then welcome.. ebay is full of those heatsinks I used them as they are pretty cheap, so you have used them too for that reason only , although a bigger heatsink would give a better performance and you know that for sure yourself, so used because they are cheap, or did you not... but design of those heatsinks is not yours nor mine same is with TECs , so Please.. II remind you I am not a kid, I am 44 years old, and pretty wise too..
Heatsinks are widely available in exact the same design made by manufacturing companies and tecs too so I had no choice to buy any other but those that most suit the application , you don't have the patent on something like that nor anybody can ever have.. me too I would personaly not even think about it myself. Anybody can use them the are made to suit projects and application designs if they are ment to be part of.


Do you think picture of you looks nice infront of everyone here, surely not..

Using a metaphor about girl and 2 boys was just appropriate to give you the picture of how you are acting, and yet you did not change the plate..
you said :
Wow... You sound like a butthurt child..... -> I say : is this High intelligent person saying to someone back sounding more mature..

1) I did not attack or insult you.. (but things can change). If you feel, you said to me->is this nice ? you are threatening to me Jerry in this forum, Are you not ?
that way then you have a problem.you said : (but things can change) that's a threat Jerry to me.
you said also : (or perhaps it's a language issue). I was always talking nice to you I had no interest of any kind talking to you , you obviously had reasons to be jealous ,not me, I am just a genuinely nice hobby guy that like projects and do them a lot, I had no reason to ask you a question apart from to answer yours.. remember the motive your and mine, think about it rationally, will you , I am just a hobby person OK.. like all of those people here..

5 posts you said I have.. I realy don't use forums online nor I use internet a lot such as social media websites so yes 5 post is a lot for me and probably won't increase much.. if you make this one last I will stay at 5 post I promise..

Let it be Peace , no offenses no more..

I hope actually you will say a couple of nice words instead..

you said :
Talk about true colors..... If anyone is jealous... it is obviously you. - > My Answer to you: But on what can I be jealous Jerry, I miss this part and why ?
(walking away shaking head)

Answer: why would I be jealous Jerry, did I ask you ever a thing , you started yourself , so How can I be the one then,please, just admit ,it hurts and you can't control yourself.. anyone reading all those posts from the beginning can see that you started with me and not me with you.. I have no interest to ask you anything at all nor I ever did.. I just find myself answering your jealous questions towards me.. why do you have to ask all those questions, have life , do what you do I don't care.. I really don't. I have no further questions to you nor I ever had one on first and last place sir. I've seen your little house where you manufacture meter at home, nice home, I see now how big plans you have.. well good look with it, it's not picking up yet I must notice as house is still in relatively poor condition, purchasing your own calibration is a bit concerning but ok .. do what you like , I am not going to talk to you no more I see who you are..

Thank you Jerry from J Bauer Electronics
I truly hope that you will actually say a couple of nice words instead. if you are genuinely nice person why not be nice instead Jerry..

Once and last at the end I thank you Jerry on your questions they ware thankfully received & duly appreciated and you guys thank you for the way you received it..
 
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Fine , Look I am going to stop this, you are right.. all of it..
now please leave me alone..
I, just like any other Member here can respond to ANY Thread
and Posts. If you don't like the responses just don't post.

put it on my back like I started contacting you , I am not jealous.
You're the one that started say I was jealous after I posted some
honest calculations...in Post #16.


may I ask what did I do to you when you are so angry as a person
I am completely calm..... You have never seen me angry...:)

if you make this one last I will stay at 5 post I promise..
It is clear that you want the last word. You can't stop responding....

Let it be Peace , no offenses no more..
The only one offending was you when I stated the power
calculation facts...in Post #16.


anyone reading all those posts from the beginning can see that you started with me and not me with you..
I asked a few questions and responded to your answers
in Post #16.
Then you attacked me, my company and our products
in Post #18 and after.


I just find myself answering your jealous questions towards me..
why do you have to ask all those questions, have life , do what you do I don't care..
What jealous questions ???????
I merely responded to your posts.... Post #16
Had you responded more civilly in Post #18 this thread
would not
have gone sideways. But instead you decided
to be aggressive in Post #18.


I really don't. I have no further questions to you nor I ever had one on first and last place sir.
I certainly hope so......(y)
Although you say you have never asked one...
Which is it ???


Thank you Jerry from J Bauer Electronics
You are more than welcome...."foodson" from LPF.

I truly hope that you will actually say a couple of nice words instead. if you are genuinely nice person why not be nice instead Jerry..
From all the aggressive posts above....
I'm speechless....:confused:


Once and last at the end I thank you Jerry on your questions they ware thankfully received & duly appreciated and you guys thank you for the way you received it..
Like I said....You are more than welcome....


Jerry
 
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I just find myself answering your jealous questions towards me..
why do you have to ask all those questions, have life , do what you do I don't care.
.
What jealous questions ???????
I merely responded to your posts. - >
I say Jerry this to you: but why you responded to my post it was not directed to you .. do you see, so who started , you again , just admitted it and contradicting yourself . you must be so hard to live with I guess..

Why do you have to , or why did you have to respond to my post that's the really good question to yourself, ask yourself jealously ..


Quote me on :
choice of Thermopile Head design.
Answer:
Answer: Ohhh my dear Jerry, you took some chines heatsink and put some Tec on it , with some coating, which I had so many at hand so I used them, why not , I still have a bunch of them in draw,,and it's your design, my dear.. you are more then welcome.. ebay is full of those heatsinks I used them as they are pretty cheap, so you have used them too for that reason only , although a bigger heatsink would give a better performance and you know that for sure yourself, so you used them because they are so cheap.. but design of those heatsinks is not yours nor mine same is with TECs , so Please.. I remind you I am not a kid, I am 44 years old, and pretty wise too..
Heatsinks are widely available in exact the same design made by manufacturing companies and tecs too so I had no choice to buy any other but those that most suit the application , you don't have the patent on something like that nor anybody can ever have.. me too I would personally not even think about it myself. Anybody can use them the are made to suit projects and application designs if they are meant to be part of.

Had you responded more civilly this thread would not
have gone sideways. But instead you decided to be
aggressive. - > You have, not me.. and you have a bigger motive , mine is hobby your business, not big but ok , you have hopes,that's good..

fine Jerry I quit.. Ok.. go make your meters best in the world I am done.. . Jerry have a nice day and all the best you .. instead to portray yourself better in-front of all those people and you future customers this did not do you an good advert in future to come.. you think about it.. and hopefully stop.. Make a cup of coffee and have a cigarette and relax a bit, calm down and have fun think something positive and all the things will just look better, better then this.. I meant no harm to you , I am not you rival, nor competitor so relax and stop with it, I beg you.. other people maybe want to learn something new and not read my and your not so famous posts between each other.. I suggest I give you a hand so we hand shake and start a better conversation instead or simply leave all this behind.. Can it be ? I am tired of all this..
 
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I just find myself answering your jealous questions towards me..
why do you have to ask all those questions, have life , do what you do I don't care.
.

Quote me on :
choice of Thermopile Head design.
Answer:
Answer: Ohhh my dear Jerry, you took some chines heatsink and put some Tec on it , with some coating, which I had so many at hand so I used them, why not , I still have a bunch of them in draw,,and it's your design, my dear.. you are more then welcome.. ebay is full of those heatsinks I used them as they are pretty cheap, so you have used them too for that reason only , although a bigger heatsink would give a better performance and you know that for sure yourself, so you used them because they are so cheap.. but design of those heatsinks is not yours nor mine same is with TECs , so Please.. I remind you I am not a kid, I am 44 years old, and pretty wise too..
Heatsinks are widely available in exact the same design made by manufacturing companies and tecs too so I had no choice to buy any other but those that most suit the application , you don't have the patent on something like that nor anybody can ever have.. me too I would personally not even think about it myself. Anybody can use them the are made to suit projects and application designs if they are meant to be part of.


fine Jerry I quit..
I am tired of all this..
Still whining ??? And again you have it wrong....

Our TECS are manufactured for us using our specifications.
They are NOT the cheap TECS that you seem to use.

Our Coatings are formulas and application procedures that we
(J.BAUER Electronics) developed over the past 12 years. We
have many different formulas that we use on our different
LaserBee LPM products.

It is not the heatsinks that gives our LPMs performance...

I was no saying that you could not use those Heatsinks...
I was just pointing out that you copied our intended use
for them.

I'm fed up of responding to your blatant and feeble attempts
to attack and TROLL me. This is getting old quick..

Good luck trying to sell your 433mW LPM......


Jerry
 
Still whining ??? And again you have it wrong....

Our TECS are manufactured for us using our specifications.
They are NOT the cheap TECS that you seem to use.

Our Coatings are formulas and application procedures that we
(J.BAUER Electronics) developed over the past 12 years. We
have many different formulas that we use on our different
LaserBee LPM products.

It is not the heatsinks that gives our LPMs performance...

I was no saying that you could not use those Heatsinks...
I was just pointing out that you copied our intended use
for them.

I'm fed up of responding to your blatant and feeble attempts
to attack and TROLL me. This is getting old quick..

Good luck trying to sell your 433mW LPM......


Jerry
Ohh my Dear Jerry..

Quote:
Our TECS are manufactured for us using our specifications.
They are NOT the cheap TECS that you seem to use.


Answer:
I know jerry , but if they will believe you, so let it be, I personally dont think someone will start running the manufacturing line and specifically design some tec-s only for you in such small batch,please be real.. you run this aa a small home business.. . .You said OUR , how many of you , only You ? or 1 and a /1/4 of you..
I had never intention to be your rival in anyway by you are pushing everyone out so maybe and you mentioned some other guys too, so you ware the same again towards some other creative people,probably younger then me I am 44 , I am not a kid Jerry, so I will release this mine as an open-source and surely will do a comparison with your magic coating and tear-down of it.. also scratch the coating send for analysis and check the spay , your magic spray coating and cut the sensor out that same as mine.. and have a deeper insight.. I am sure ,I and everyone else will be just amazed to find out what's in there, that state of art...., but I will not , I know already.. you assemble those in leaving room as far as I can see.. but saying and speaking in plural OUR.. in a little wooden house in middle of nowhere just off the main road without a single neighbour , we manufacture, we get our made, we this we that.. start with " I " .. in my room...

is $7 cheap for you a pcs, ohh you pay them far more, you must be buying new house any soon from all of your profits.. and move to a proper industrial estate premises I guess


I will do the Test and show you and everyone the result.. that should close this out ,about your best "OUR " power Meter etc...

when I saw how well you are doing this , I will rather go for opensource as it seems Jerry this is just not a profitable business to invest in..

money is just not coming in, am I right? so why not giving those great people something so they can keep doing great DIY projects,
you mentioned my LCD voltmeter, don't you use voltmeter too. my dear, you will say but mine are specificaly designed for OUR laserBee

Any LCD Voltmeter obviously is not to be used , after testing a lot , I am not going to go in details of it , as you know it yourself, only certain voltmeter can do for this project, some of them don't count until they reach 20mv some have a low impedance and so on.. I found one trader that can get those I needed for this particular LPM Project , works perfect with pretty precise 1mv Accuracy and a higher impedance ..
so it suits the application well..
 
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Looking for cheapest functional LPM (laser power meter).
What is the best source/model for such?
Will this one work below at ebay?
if you are still looking for a meter I can give you this one free of charge , it's a prototype , but works great,if you only cover the cost of packaging and postage where ever you are.. hope it serves your purpose .. Meter still on offer to anyone who doesn't have one and need one . . . https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/273761097205
 
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Hi
This is like reading War and Peace.
I’m speach less
Rich:)
Hi rich , well I am not a business rich and guy that bought a LMP from me years ago said you should go to laser forums and people there need diy LPMs for low price ,it took me a year to finaly come to one forum, I usually don't use ever forums, that guy tested mine all around using his Ophir up to 1000mW and lasers up to 5W and various wavelenghts 808nm, 405nm445nm,630nm at 2 w,500mw,2.5w.4w. and even 5.5w but first LMP was able to go up to 3.9w he said, dispite what Mr Jerry is carrying on and on I know the Art of this well,, and I am just a hobby guy that do a lot of electronic projects every day I simply love it enjoy it, it makes my day, it really does. And mister Jerry says how he was merely responded to my posts..... so I did not ever ask him anything nor I had an interest but because he sales them he came to me to merely responded to my posts....
And I am so sorry Rich we got into this, this way. Iwas always thinking J Bauer Electronics was a proffesional , but after this, it changed my mind. I just simply like to make thing out and spend time mastering it , I made a Akai MX76 , took all electronic out and programmed hammer action key velocity myself made a midi interface and keyboard serves me well up to today, buy the way I play piano, so I make what I like and I get on it really well until I get the task done.. would you like free LPM meter Rich.. just P&P... I will give it free to anyone in need of it. Best wishes Rich
 
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you can check yourself if you wish.. go to uk royal mail, choose signed for packet to 2kg max and have a look I will check too
do you have one LPM already or not
 
:)What is the shipping cost to the US?
you can check yourself if you wish.. go to uk royal mail, choose signed for packet to 2kg max and have a look I will check too
do you have one LPM already or not
 
Will do and check.:)
No I don't have a LPM. Never had before either..

Edit: Still trying, thinking I saw anywhere from 11 euro to 22 ??
ok small parcell 2kg tracked and signature is 20.35..
 
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Will do and check.:)
No I don't have a LPM. Never had before either..
ok in that case it would serve u . I would give it free only to a member that dont have one.. for someone like that it would be great to have it .. hope you test your lasers and let everyone know how it went... send me you address in conversation menu.. I will check price roughly before I pack it.. We'll need some bobble wrap , so i wrap it well, box will have to be alot bigger then item so it doesn't get damaged, I watched how UPS and Amazon drivers deliver parcels in USA. just throw it. I hope you have some strong lasers just so you do a test around 5w+ or below it and just so we confirm that sensor can stand it to mr Jerry from Bauer Electronics that makes Laserbee...

I see you are in Fall river MA
 
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