happy 4-20

[rkcstr]

Personally, I think the whole idea of legality of drugs is stupid.  The only "drugs" I partake in are alcohol and caffeine (aside from medically useful drugs like antihistamines and the occasional antibiotic), so I'm not here to battle for my right to use them.

But, making them illegal does really very little to prevent people from getting them and supports a worldwide and extensive criminal network based on their sale.  However, if the government took a role in regulating their production (quality of standards and consistency) and availability and then taxed on the sale, they would most likely not only make it SAFER for those people to use the drugs, it would likely also allow for promotion of more responsible usage.  It would also allow people to freely (without fear of persecution by the law) seek medical care if they did overuse and would also generate HUGE amounts of tax revenue for funding programs to discourage use and provide treatment programs for those drug users.  But more importantly, there would likely also be plenty left over to fund things like schools, medical care, infrastructure and everything else in the lives of the people who actually value it enough to not use the drugs.  If a person wants to waste their life away using drugs, let em...  stop treating people like they're children. If they want to use drugs, let their wasted money go to good use.

 

[nikokapo]

If there is no black market, then there is no associated violence and crime..

Just like with prostitution, seriously. If it was legal health standards could be imposed and there wouldn't be so many problems.

 

[Tech_Junkie]

The only point I was try to make was if alcohol is legal so should pot. Take it from an expert all strains of pot are difereant. Some strains cause depression, some anxiety. Some make you stupefied, and just bring you down. What I learned in Amsterdam, were the cops don't really care, is that if you are allowed to grow in premium conditions these side effects do not exist. Also pot, like other drugs, is not for everyone. Some people have higher tolerances than others.

Its more than just taxs. Tale the money invested by the FBI, DEA, DTFA ect spent on the this so called "war". Then add the money spent in prisons, ect. If the government could produce, and yes they already have, G-13, a top product and sell it like cigarettes, we would get all that revenue, plus taxes. Why smoke garbage when you could go buy a pack of ultra weed. The kind that makes you want to be active, and laugh. And the biggest money maker would be the hemp industry. Its misinformation that makes this not possible.

Once again 4:20 is the universal time people light up around the word. It may be a police code in some places, but that is not were it came from.  

I used to burn but not any more , i remember a long long time ago
one time I was ....... and then .................wait a minute..............
oh yea there was these ..........................never mind I forgot  

;D I hear ya brother  ;D

 

[GoRdOn_B]

LMAO



Seriously though... if we were to "legalize" drugs... i believe it would really help end the violence on the border, where there actually is a war that threatens our way of life going on. instead of this bin laden nonsense on tv. (seriously does anyone believe that anymore) Down in Mexico cops are getting their heads cut off and left on the side of the road and we don't even hear about it here in America. http://www.foreignpolicy.com/story/cms.php?story_id=4684&page=0 I just think it would really screw the cartels and the corrupt government that are profiting from this. by having it illegal they can double and triple dip. accept bribes, them bust em again, and accept more bribes. Not only would it fight the cartels but it would also help our economy.. regardless of peoples opinions of "drugs"... people still buy them and they are a major profit commodity. I'm sure we could use the money right about now. I once heard a cop ask... why do people do drugs.. Then answered his own question with the answer... cuz they work. Until the day where they can put these "drugs" into pills, they will never be legal. its the lawmakers who own stock in those company's that are the ones who profit. Also the ones who want to keep it illegal. Heroin is illegal yet Oxycontin is rampant & its just a synthetic heroin. So pot will never be legal until it goes into pill form, because anyone can grow a seed. this "so called" war on drugs is a huge failure if the object was to eliminate drugs. You can now buy heroin on the street at a higher potency at a cheaper price than it was when the war on drugs first started. How does that work? Simple really.. Its the government who ships in the drugs. CNN had a story not that long ago about how heroin is now cheaper than beer. its my honest belief that the goal of this "war" is to get us all in a cage. The prison industrial complex is also a multi billion dollar industry that is deeply tied to the drug industry. Corruption is the real enemy.


Has anybody ever heard of L.E.A.P.  (Law Enforcement Against Prohibition)
http://www.leap.cc/cms/index.php

   The mission of LEAP is to reduce the multitude of harms resulting from fighting the war on drugs and to lessen the incidence of death, disease, crime, and addiction by ultimately ending drug prohibition.

   LEAP's goals are: (1) To educate the public, the media, and policy makers about the failure of current drug policy by presenting a true picture of the history, causes and effects of drug use and the elevated crime rates more properly related to drug prohibition than to drug pharmacology and (2) To restore the publics respect for police, which has been greatly diminished by law enforcements involvement in imposing drug prohibition.

   LEAP's main strategy for accomplishing these goals is to create a constantly growing speakers bureau staffed with knowledgeable and articulate former drug-warriors who describe the impact of current drug policies on: police/community relations; the safety of law enforcement officers and suspects; police corruption and misconduct; and the excessive financial and human costs associated with current drug policies.


There is also a story i would like to mention.
Its a story about Portugal and how they dealt with their drug problem by decriminalizing them. All of them. Cocaine, Heroin, LSD. everything.

"The data show that, judged by virtually every metric, the Portuguese decriminalization framework has been a resounding success. Within this success lie self-evident lessons that should guide drug policy debates around the world"

http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=portugal-drug-decriminalization
&
http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=10080

 

[Tech_Junkie]

You have some very good points but I don't think legalizing coke, heroine, meth, ect is the way to go. Not in the land of the excess (US) anyway.

I had a small debate with my doctor about some of the same issues that you brought up. He said it doesn't matter, illegal is illegal. I asked him if he ever drives over the speed limit in his 80K BMW. He said "yes". I told him that was the same thing as smoking pot. He looked at me and laughed and then asked "how so"? I told him the fine for possession of pot was $300. The same fine he would get if he got caught speeding. They were both misdemeanors, IE: fines. He didn't know what to say LOL. Then I told him that speeding kills more people in one month than pot has ever killed since people started smoking it. Once again a smile, and then he said "see you next month".

 

[mikeeey]

http://i39.tinypic.com/fl9fra.png

ROFL Niko did you make this? I laugh every time I look at it.