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Green laser safety googles for 10$!?!?!?

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If these actually work then that would be amazing! Can't wait until someone posts results..
 





I've never seen any goggles under $25 and those were coated but not certified. Under $10 with no info...? Makes you think. :thinking: I don't usually call people names but you have to be an idiot to trust these goggles, tested or not.
 
What's the problem? These laser goggles are just dyed plastic, whether certified or not. It's quite likely they come off the same assembly lines anyway.

Also these hobbyist glasses are "alignment goggles", they're meant to allow you to observe the spot in comfort, they're not meant to sustain a direct hit except as a last-ditch defense - again irrespective of whether they're certified or not. In fact, even then I wouldn't worry except if the laser is focused from short distance onto the goggles, in that case they may after a while burn a hole through the glasses. After all, you don't worry hitting a piece of paper with an unfocused beam, and this plastic is more resilient than paper.

Eyes are in great danger from laser beams because they FOCUS the beam. Without focusing, a beam needs to be in the hundreds of mW range before it's more than bright light to most common materials.
 
1. You are speculating because no one knows the specs on these.
2. Most of us have lasers in the hundreds of mWs.

Hey if you want to chance your eyes to save $20 then all the power to you. But I'm not going to sit here and speculate on a cheap set of goggles without specs. Or advise people without having solid facts to back up my recomondaion. Sorry, but thats not intelligent.
 
It is sad a company would sell this though. I hope to god no one goes blind because of these cheapie goggle
 
Maybe I'm speculating, but at least I'm not calling the people who want to replace speculation by facts by doing tests "idiots".

Also remember: it's lasers that blind you, not goggles :cool: (cheapie chinese lasers & parts sold by sad companies, to boot!)

(are you really asserting that something is better just because it costs more? That was a long time ago... now it just means more profit)
 
dr-ebert said:
(are you really asserting that something is better just because it costs more? That was a long time ago... now it just means more profit)
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Not at all..just most companies give you some specs. These give you nothing, which tells me to stay away. Because in the end, if someone hurts themselves, they can always say "Hey, we never said it will block a 20mW laser".
 
When did this forum ever need specs on a new diode before starting to use it? Why act differently for goggles? It's not rocket science to find out whether they're useful.

Besides, focalprice is a chinese reseller, so no matter what they say or don't say, if you hurt yourself, they'll just shrug their shoulders... FP, DX, Kaidomain et al are generally very weak on reliable specs, but that's not because their products are necessarily bad (many are, of course), but because they don't care, they just buy, sell & ship the stuff.
 
Alright I received mine yesterday. Although I ordered the $10 pair, they sent the $8 pair that Grix linked to. That $8 pair looks and works IDENTICAL in every single way to this cheap pair of goggles I got a long time ago. My original ones came free with a $20 laser leveler. The laser leveler was red, which is ironic because the goggles don't protect against red at all. But, they work just great for green and blue-ray. In fact, they work even BETTER for green than my OEM Laser System Goggles (they block more, so I can focus a green smaller, easier). I was stupid enough to shine my laser directly at the glasses several times though. I see now that it has some permanent lines on them (not noticeable unless looking HARD - I didn't notice them until I looked carefully right now) as well as one black spot on the side, where I guess I shined it on it for a long time. But, I remember when I DID do a direct hit, it didn't immediately mess up the dye and go through... the glasses held up for a good amount of time - several seconds.

So, all in all, I personally recommend these goggles to anyone. They are currently the cheapest, decent, goggles there are. I sometimes use them more than my OEM goggles. They work much better than the OEM for green, and SLIGHTLY worse (I mean VERY SLIGHTLY) than the OEM for blu-ray.

Edit: I'll also be getting a pair of the Red Wicked Laser Sport Elite Goggles in about a week or two, and I'll post a review comparison over here. I may also copy and edit my post and place it in the "reviews" section of the forum.
 
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btw Dr. Ebert... well said^^

And thanks Grix :)

Edit: and holy cr*p themandalorian... "Join Date: JUNE 2009" And you already have 337 posts + 6 rep?!?!?!?!
 
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dr-ebert said:
When did this forum ever need specs on a new diode before starting to use it? Why act differently for goggles? It's not rocket science to find out whether they're useful.
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It may not be rocket science, but it's close.
http://www.safety.vanderbilt.edu/pdf/laser_exposure_limits.pdf
It's complicated and there's a lot of math involved... Companies manufacturing safety gear need to go through huge amounts of government certification tests, all sorts of dye bleach tests and whatnot... They have to adhere to very specific requirements. You can't just point a laser at a pair of glasses and say "yep, these are safe"... With these cheaply made knockoff glasses that aren't made to *any* quality standards, the dye can be uneven and pointing in one place could give you od5 protection whereas an inch away could provide no protection.. One pair of glasses will behave much differently than another.. No one will be able to tell you how long they will hold up to a direct hit, if they even will at all.

If you want to risk a permanent crippling disability in order to save $20 go ahead, but you're incredibly stupid if you do.
 
Alexizupinhea said:
btw Dr. Ebert... well said^^

And thanks Grix :)

Edit: and holy cr*p themandalorian... "Join Date: JUNE 2009" And you already have 337 posts + 6 rep?!?!?!?!
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I assume you are using a LPM and other tools to test them. Please don't tell me you are recommending them because of visual references.
 
I thought it was inferred that I don't have a LPM since I based my recommendation by comparing it with my OEM pair. Also, as for consistency, I have another pair which is pretty much identical (as said before) and it performs identically as well. Just because you may not like the idea of a good $8 pair of goggles doesn't mean you should say it's crap without having bought them. As for the dye, i'm not sure what you're talking about. I thought thought they mix the dye in with the plastic and then mold the goggles. If so, I'm pretty sure it's going to be the same throughout. It sounds like you're just saying anything you can to make it sound like they're bad. They also look identical to the wicked laser's LaserShades (I can't accurately compare - I don't have those), and I wouldn't be too surprised if they WERE the same.
 
If I'm correct dyes are a coating. If they spray them wrong they can have defects in coating thicknesses. Being the price they are, and no specs, one would assume they are QC rejects.

So in reality you have no technical means to compare lenses other a visual reference. Regardless if I like them or not its a weak assumption a best.

I don't see why the need to believe these are OK over rides the common sense part that your eyes are worth more than $8.

I'm not arguing this anymore. Good luck.
 
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