Vortish, I am so glad you got some information out of them. I ordered two 22650 king kong button tops from them on the 7th of july. I have been in constant communication with them ever since .Only today have they said anything about something going on with their shipping agents malasia post. They are indeed shady. They have known about this air getting changed to ground for a long time now and not once did they ever mention it in their correspondence to me until today! I started a support ticket with them 26 days ago and finally today they let me know about this shipping fiasco! If they had been upfront with me about it, I would not have cared about it. They had lots of time to inform me but never did. The worst customer service I have ever dealt with period. When I finally get a refund or my money back, I will never do business with them again and most definitely would never recommend them to another forum member. I realize shipping is not their fault BUT they knew what was going on and let me fester like an infected wound for almost a month without telling the truth. That is terrible business no matter what anybody's past experiences with them might have been. 20% of $17.00 does nothing to improve my opinion of them.