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FrozenGate by Avery

FAIL THREAD!!!!

LB - you do know it's the FAIL thread right? :p

DJNY - That's not a fail, that's a freaking win! :D Pretty sure it's already in the other thread.
 





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It's crazy but happens all the time. The more costly legal battles are state vs federal and vice versa. Of course also state vs state, and agencies run amok.

The problem with the government, specifically where the legal system is concerned, is they have no budget ceiling.
 
There is so much undocumented money as well, that one has wonder where it goes.

~ LB
 
Lazerbeak said:
There is so much undocumented money as well, that one has wonder where it goes.

~ LB
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I always laugh when I read articles that say "so and so can't account for over twenty thousand dollars".

Meanwhile BILLIONS are "misplaced" on a regular basis, and so much more goes to waste.

One of my colleagues just joked today that he never imagined government could be so dysfunctional or wasteful until he started working with us.
 
Lazerbeak said:
:eek: You work for the... guverment?

~ LB
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No, I work for a company that helps businesses work WITH the government. I help mostly small businesses work through all the bullsh*t, to be able to actually sell, and do business. For the most part this is in regards to GSA contractors, who sell their products via gsaadvantage.gov. (Basically like amazon.com but for the federal government.)

In order for companies to be able to sell via GSA, and therefore to the federal government, a lot of work needs to be done. That's where I come in.

End result of my work... government actually does get a better deal and saves money, and companies paying mine also make money.

Unfortunately in the process I also end up seeing all the dysfunction, and just unbelievable levels of stupidity both in terms of policies, and implementation when the policies are administered by dunces.
 
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Ah, all makes sense now. I have heard some horror stories from customers with government accounts. 90 days and more before they get paid as well as many hoops to jump through. We avoid them now.

~ LB
 
Lazerbeak said:
Ah, all makes sense now. I have heard some horror stories from customers with government accounts. 90 days and more before they get paid as well as many hoops to jump through. We avoid them now.

~ LB
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Yup, that happens. Or for example I had a client have a problem come up.

An order was placed for 20 digital cameras. Order was filled, cameras sent, end of story.

8 months later the government office that ordered the cameras contacts the company telling them to take the cameras back, and issue refund immediately. The office ordered the wrong cameras, and when they were deployed apparently there were problems.

So the company had to take the USED cameras back, and even pay for return shipping.

Or how about this... large order for printers. 3 months later they want support for the printers because they are not able to get the printer to accept the toner cartridges the office uses. Nevermind that the printers are fully functional, and manufacturer states the cartridges are compatible. When told to deal with the manufacturer, the government office complained enough to have the contract threatened with cancellation.

Chargebacks for orders placed over a year past? Yup.

Claims of non receipt? Yup. You think paypal is bad, try the government - they claim non receipt even when there is signature confirmation.

Many companies expend thousands on developing the ability to sell to the government, but find that it's just not worth it for them - not when they don't know what they are doing. It's really a sad state of affairs.

Here's a kicker - you're no longer permitted to submit contract modifications for contracts in relation to office supplies because a department head is off on fridays. That's an official policy. That you're not even allowed to propose a change on a given day because the person in charge is off. Nevermind that it's actually a large office with hundreds if not thousands of employees.

The problem is there is a horrible lack of accountability, and for all the crap you might have heard about GSA last year with them having conferences in vegas, it's actually a lot worse.
 
Wow, that's crazy. Actually, we're lucky in that our goods are not manufactured in the U.S. so they can't even buy from us. Although honestly, things "made" in the U.S. contain parts from whatever country is the lowest bidder. It's actually quite frightening that the majority of internal electronic parts used by our military are off the shelf China goods. Talk about vulnerability.

Fail indeed.

~ LB
 
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