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DIY Laser Cutter Project

Re: My holiday project :D

Here's mine so far...remember it's a work in progress and I'm not Ben Heck.

I quickly attached the electronics to show where they'd mount. Nothing's permanently attached so far. On the final build the wires will be cut to proper length, tied down, etc. This was just to show what was built. Please forgive the mess, it will look better on the final build. Also, kindly ignore the terrible mess in my garage, I'm sure it will look better once I die and someone cleans it (because it won't be me :) )

This is my own design, no plans, just an idea what I wanted and what I could do with material on hand (~$5 paid out for wood to build the frame). Once complete I'll probably use it to make a better version of itself. Until then I wanted to keep costs as low as possible.

Last motor test showed everything moved and performed as expected. What's left is to attach the table min and max sensors (just pushbuttons), and build a control console which will just be a bunch of switches for manual jog and resets and such. If I were smart I'd just buy a keypad I could read via SPI, but I have the switches already, so maybe for version 2.

In it's current form it can be controlled by a standard Arduino, once I add the switches I'll need to go to an Arduino Mega.

Control software is a g-code interpreter I found online. It's fed lines of g-code through the usb port. If I wanted, I could write a quick sketch to monitor step/dir pins for each axis and then connect it to the parallel port to give cad/cam software direct control. I will do this at some point to decide which way I like better. I can use my laptop with the g-code interpreter, but I've also got several old computers that could run linuxcnc easily.

I need to trim the Y Axis, it's 8-10 inches longer than it need to be. I also need another piece of 5/16-18 allthread since the one I used for Y and Z was old and rusted and just meant to act as a placeholder. I also have cooling fans for the motors and controllers, and an air hose to keep the cut path clear.

Cutter is a 1/2 hp trim router that will accept 1/8" or 1/4" shaft size bits so I could go as small as a 1/32" cutting bit. It only has a cutting depth of an inch (only 1/4" for the tiny cutter), but since this is meant to be a router/engraver, not a mill machine that should be fine.

Steppers are from a surplus store and originally from a dot matrix printer. Controllers are home-made brute force style. Not very efficient but super cheap to build. Since this is for occasional home use not production, I'm fine with that. 3800 steps per inch and painfully slow (half an inch per minute for cutting, around 4 for jogging). I can probably speed this up without issue but that's where I'm starting.

To couple to allthread to the steppers I cut a cross about an inch deep into the end of the rod, shoved it onto the shaft of the stepper, and used a bolt to tighten it. The stepper shaft is shaped as a cross and this worked better than set screws. It's not perfect though so I may try to machine a custom connector.

Bearings are heavy duty drawer slides, rated for 600 pounds. They're tighter and move freer than my original ball-bearing on a track attempts.

Cutting area is around 12"x16" with pieces up to 3" thick. Table space needed, around 30x36 inches plus whatever is needed for the computer. I have a tool cart it will fit perfectly upon.

Total price: around $65 so far, probably $10 more to spend...I'm not counting the arduino since it was previously owned and can be used for other projects, the PC power supply since it was, literally, taken from the trash, and most of the wood since it was also originally trash. To buy everything new, $150-$175 for everything except the steppers and probably $250 for those plus a professional controller.

When will it be done? No clue. I work on it in spurts, and it's cold in the garage right now. Future possibilities: RepRap extruder head to do 3d printing, and a laser head to scorch wood.

Misellus
 

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Re: My holiday project :D

The PSU I have bought allows analog control too. Which will be essential is I wish to do any engraving. I'll figure something out with the g-code, someone surely has controlled a laser cutter with it before.

I see you used the drawer slides as linear guides. How well do they work out? I was considering using those waayy back before I started.
 
Re: My holiday project :D

Alright, some good news.

I tried my steppers on 24V, and I can get them up to around 150RPM, which means just under 3 minutes to make it across the table compared to 6 minutes before.

However, the steppers are only ever so slightly warm, which means I can probably push them a bit further even.

My darlington array says it's rated for 30V input, but 50V output. Anyone know what that means? Would I be safe to try em on 48V?

EDIT: I figured it out, the 50V is just a kickback rating. Looks like I'll need a beefier driver to run em at 36V.

Cheers,
Dan
 
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Re: My holiday project :D

I see you used the drawer slides as linear guides. How well do they work out? I was considering using those waayy back before I started.

Works great, very stable, even Y and Z which are mounted vertically.

My original attempt was with a track and roller bearings. It worked but had loose spots and spots where it'd stick. With these, the only unwanted movement I've found is if you extend them past their base length (18" on the X axis) then there is a small amount of vertical movement as there is no longer something under it to support it (they can extend out to over twice their original length). The cutter is positioned approx 2" from the end where there is plenty of support.

Misellus
 
Re: My holiday project :D

Hey Misellus, I have the g-code script loaded on my Arduino, though I'm not quite sure what you are meant to send it over serial?

EDIT: OK, I've figured it out.

You send it G21 to tell it you're working in metric,
Then G1 F5000 sets them to max speed
Then X5Y10 etc moves them to a position.

All I have to do is go about replacing the Z axis with the laser power. Since the power is controllable, I guess the depth would equate to laser power?

Cheers,
Dan
 
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Re: My holiday project :D

Leave the serial cable connected between the computer and the arduino. Run whatever program you are using to feed lines of gcode to the arduino (computer I'm on right now doesn't have it so can't tell you what I use). If you're just wanting to test things you can open the Serial Monitor in the arduino editor and the top line can be used to send.

Just enter something simple like

G1 X10 Y10

to see it move and tell you if your steppers are moving in the right directions

Misellus
 
Re: My holiday project :D

All I have to do is go about replacing the Z axis with the laser power. Since the power is controllable, I guess the depth would equate to laser power?

Cheers,
Dan

Ha, both writing at the same time :)

Sounds like a good plan to me for the Z= power level. You'll have to edit the sketch a bit to filter commands to Z a little differently since there's no need to figure out deltas and number of steps and probably other things too but it shouldn't take much.

Misellus
 
Re: My holiday project :D

Just bought a 36V PSU and some more v-groove bearings for the Y carriage. Post office is gonna hate me :p

Nearing the end of stuff I need to buy for this project, yay :D
 
Re: My holiday project :D

Decided I'll probably use a dedicated CNC controller board that is directly compatible with mach3. I have a friend with a 4 axis one he is willing to sell for $60AUD shipped.
 
Re: My holiday project :D

Decided I'll probably use a dedicated CNC controller board that is directly compatible with mach3. I have a friend with a 4 axis one he is willing to sell for $60AUD shipped.
I can help you with the code man, don't buy something you can make yourself for way less money!
 
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Got 4 of my v groove bearings today:

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Re: My holiday project :D

looking really good :D
think you will finish it before the end of christmas break?
 
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That question is resting on the shoulders of postage companies. I'm moving house this weekend, and going to Canberra over Christmas, so we'll see.
 
Re: My holiday project :D

Alright, in new house now! Though going on holidays next week until new years eve.

Since the last update, I have received the CO2 PSU, Limit switches, more steppers, found some FS mirrors.

Still waiting on or need to order:
- 4 V groove bearings
- Stepper couplers (Finished)
- CNC controller
- CO2 focusing lens
- Stepper PSU
 


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