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crazyspaz

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This is just a feeler for now. I finally heard back from the company ("microflexwire," based in the US) for their quote on their silicone insulated wire. I got a quote for both 26AWG and 20AWG.
To give a visual representation of the difference between 26 and 20AWg (because I don't have a sample of the 20AWG):
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(obviously the 26AWG is the smaller circle. The circles are based off the size given by the company.)

They have a wide variety of colors, but I only asked about red, black, and white as i see those being the most commonly used.

26AWG(65/44) Tin Plated copper wire
0.019 Wire Diameter
0.012 Silicone Insulation
Final O.D 0.042 Inch


500 FT Each $0.25/FT Per Color Total $375.00
1000 FT Each $0.18/FT Per Color Total $540.00
2000 FT Each $0.125/Ft Per Color Total $750.00

20AWG(7x38/44) 266 Strands Tin Plated copper wire
0.040 Wire Diameter
0.012 Silicone Insulation
Final O.D 0.070 Inch

500 FT Each $0.30/FT Per Color Total $400.00
1000 FT Each $0.20/FT Per Color Total $600.00
2000 FT Each $0.16/Ft Per Color Total $960.00

If we can get 2000ft, its only $.13 per foot...to put that in perspective, you could get 200 feet of wire for 26$. And this is the good stuff; I'm not sure if it is exactly what DTR uses, but if its not its darn close. Here are the best pics I could get (had to use my phone and the magnifying glass on my helping hands).
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Obviously the crappy china ebay wire is on the right :D
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Showing the noticable size difference (china wire on right again)

Now, this GB isn't really worth it unless we have at least 1000ft, so I am going to ask that the minimum order be 50feet per color. For example, 50 feet of red+ 50 feet of black. Even that much wire would only be 25$, at the highest price tier...at the lowest it would be a meek 13$. like I said, this isn't really worth it unless there is at least 1000ft total, which I think is very possible.

Sample price, with a 150 foot order (50 ft red, 50ft black, 50ft white):

>500ft total @$.25/ft: $37.50
>1000ft total @$.18/ft: $27.00
>2000ft total @$.13/ft: $19.50

20AWG
>500ft total @$.30/ft: $45.00
>1000ft total @$.20/ft: $30.00
>2000ft total @$.16/ft: $24.00

These are the best prices on the best wire you will get. Let me know how much you would potentially be interested in :)

Note: I am offering this to PL as well, so that may boost the numbers.


Edit: closed. Not enough interest.
 
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Re: GB Feeler: $.13/ft silicon wire (not the junky china stuff)

Posts get buried quick, not a bad thing :) means good business is happening. Fixed a price error in the OP.

PL
-100ft 26AWG
-50RWB 26AWG, 50RWB 20AWG
-50RWB 26AWG, 50RWB 20AWG
-100RWB 20AWG

LPF
Me: 75ft red,black,white 26AWG,
50feet red, black, white 20AWG
Nute: 50ft red, black 20AWG

RHD
:25ft red, black, 20&26AWG

total
26AWG: 675ft
20AWG: 900ft
 
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Re: GB Feeler: $.13/ft silicon wire (not the junky china stuff)

If it was possible to do 100 ft split red/black 26/20, I'd be in for that, but I realize that's just 25 of each.
 

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Re: GB Feeler: $.13/ft silicon wire (not the junky china stuff)

If it was possible to do 100 ft split red/black 26/20, I'd be in for that, but I realize that's just 25 of each.

We'll see how much other interest there is. Reasons I said that are a) I dont want to deal with a bunch of ~5$ orders, and b) it would be a heck of a lot harder to get any sort of quantity with orders that small.
 

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Re: GB Feeler: $.13/ft silicon wire (not the junky china stuff)

We'll see how much other interest there is. Reasons I said that are a) I dont want to deal with a bunch of ~5$ orders, and b) it would be a heck of a lot harder to get any sort of quantity with orders that small.

Right, but 100ft is still like a $30 order, not a $5 one. I just want the color distribution.

The problem with 50 ft per color minimums is that if you want RED/BLACK of both sizes, you'd have to commit to $55 worth of wire. I doubt many people need $55 worth of wire.
 
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Right, but 100ft is still like a $30 order, not a $5 one. I just want the color distribution.

The problem with 50 ft per color minimums is that if you want RED/BLACK of both sizes, you'd have to commit to $55 worth of wire. I doubt many people need $55 worth of wire.

Very true. I may change that, but I doubt the succession of this GB as it currently stands. Plus I can't imagine many people wanting 50feet of everything, anyway.
 

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Re: GB Feeler: $.13/ft silicon wire (not the junky china stuff)

I would be in for 50ft of red and 50ft black 20AWG if you could get the price point to $0.16 per ft.

I would never use this much EVER but for the price point I would go for it.
 
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Re: GB Feeler: $.13/ft silicon wire (not the junky china stuff)

Where's this wire made, if not in China?

That part has me curious.
 

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Re: GB Feeler: $.13/ft silicon wire (not the junky china stuff)

I would be in for 50ft of red and 50ft black 20AWG if you could get the price point to $0.16 per ft.

I would never use this much EVER but for the price point I would go for it.

Gotcha added :)

Where's this wire made, if not in China?

That part has me curious.


The company is in california, and I assume thats where the wire is made. Even if they do outsource to china, its loads better then the stuff you find on ebay. Like the one pic shows, the ebay stuff only has ~10 strands, isn't as flexible, and is a fair bit larger overall.
 

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Re: GB Feeler: $.13/ft silicon wire (not the junky china stuff)

Got another 600feet of interest from PL :) Although if no more people want in, I will just close this (it is just a feeler, after all). It would be nice to have $.13/ft wire though...
 
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Alright, not enough interest and too much conflict from...someone for me to continue.

I suppose thats what I get for trying to help people and spur on the DIY community.
 

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There must have been an LPF restore from backup or something, because this post seems out of place. I don't (thankfully) see anybody criticizing you for trying this GB. I told you I thought it was doomed to fail, but I'm happy you gave it a shot, and I hope you don't take my post for critical of you for trying!

GB feelers like this are great, and it's good that people try them.

I'm sure you didn't cause Jeff any trouble (I don't see how you would have? Just because he also sells wire?). I can't see him having an issue with a community run initiative like this. It's part of what makes a community like this great.

So no worries - not sure why you're apologizing to an empty thread. I didn't see anyone criticizing you driver sales either. I think all is well :)

It's obvious that some words were said in pm's. Harsh words.
 

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Only reason I posted the clarification is because jeff said lots of people were calling me scammers. Now I realise it was just to get under my skin. Ill ask a mod if they can just delete this whole thread.
 




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