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FrozenGate by Avery

Asking for a good HDD monitor / survey program

I'm not sure if it uses the HDD but perhaps what you are seeing is the windows idle process. It uses the processor when nothing else is to keep it ready for whatever job you throw at it.

I don't think you need to be worried about your HDD running non stop though, they are made for that, should last many years even if it does go full speed all the time. If you're really worried and can't figure anything out I think putting a fan next to the HDD would be a good idea.

-Kendall
 





@ sk8er4514: Thanks, but i can see the idle process of the OS listed, and it don't say me that is using the disk ..... mean, in the anvir window, it's signed as not using the HDD ..... also the defrag schedules are set for start at night, when i'm not using the pc, and the disks get accessed also when, apparently, none is using them, so i don't have idea about what is doing what.



@ bobhaha: yes, i checked for viruses and spywares ..... made a complete scan, both with the standard version of the AV, that also with the online version, that is more accurate (but take almost a day, cause i have 4 disks of 500GB in the pc) ..... i have them scheduled to defrag each week, one at a day, with O&O defrag, and it works good, so i think it can't be the main cause of the problem.

Also used tools like sophos antirootkit and other antispywares, but they say me nothing wrong (usual lots of hidden files and processes, as usual in windows :p, but apparently, all inactive or parts of the system)

The HDD don't go continuously from the start of win ..... i mean, lot of activity at win startup, for load all the files andf processes, as usual, then it stop, and works "normally", for half hour, or one hour, similar time, then, start to work also if i don't access it with programs, first slowly and randomly, but the frequency of random access increase in 10 or 15 minutes, til arrive to access them for 50 to 70% of the time, and at this point, also the rest slows down ..... from this point, also just burn a dvd at 8X becomes impossible in a single pass, cause the buffer empty 8 or 10 times before end the burning process, cause reading the data from the disks is too slow (and are SATA2 disks, and the burner is a 20X :p)

About temp internet files, i use only firefox, and have set the temp buffer size to 50 Mb, so, don't think it interfer too much ..... explorer is blocked through the firewall as same as the rest of the unneeded processes, too.

Also, with the SATA disks, i can't see what one of the disks is accessed and when ..... i mean, with the old pc, that had ide disks, i had derived from each disk a signal and put a led for each one on the front panel, so i was able to see what disk was working ..... as far as i know, with SATA drives, there's no way for do the same, cause there's a single led for all the disks, from the MB, and no enable signals from the single isks, that i can utilize for that ..... so, i also don't know which one of the disks is accessed.

The only thing that show me what disk is in use, actually, is just the anvir program, that say me that the disk F is used at 45% or more, sometimes 90% (all the others 0 or 1 %) ..... this is not completely unexpected, cause is the disk where i set both temp and incoming dirs for emule, but is still too much usage, cause the disk load column say me that emule is using the disk at 10 to 15 % ..... there's still a 30% to 75% of usage that is not shown under any process or application, damn .....

Starting to think that, more that a big gun, i need a gatling vulcan :p
 
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Also, with the SATA disks, i can't see what one of the disks is accessed and when ..... i mean, with the old pc, that had ide disks, i had derived from each disk a signal and put a led for each one on the front panel, so i was able to see what disk was working ..... as far as i know, with SATA drives, there's no way for do the same, cause there's a single led for all the disks, from the MB, and no enable signals from the single isks, that i can utilize for that ..... so, i also don't know which one of the disks is accessed.

Yes this is correct...



Ok i think it is time to step it up a notch.. have you had any experience with safemode or microsoft repair enviroment?

One way to fix/check for errors on the HDD is to use command line in command prompt.. basically boot the pc in safe mode (aka safemode with command prompt). next after all the drivers have loaded log into the admin user. next open command prompt and type the following!

cd c:\

this will bring the directory to c:\ should look like this:

c:\>

next type this in

chkdsk (hdd letter): for example chkdsk c:

it will then start a 5 step process to find/fix any problems with that drive!

after you have finished one drive move on to the next (not sure if a reboot is required between the scans, but i reccommend it!). Once you finish all scans you can then finally start windows and see if the problem is fixed (do not start windows between scans!). If that some how does not fix it i have one more trick up my sleeve!

Hope that helps -Adrian :D
 
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uhm, not thought to do a chkdisk, also if i know about that ..... thanks, i'll try this after, when i can turn off the pc (actually working on it, other than surf LPF :D), and then let you know ..... but if it take the same time of a normal scandisk, it take a day or so, for all the disks, i guess ..... one is almost empty (system), one is at half (emule dirs), and two are full like eggs (archives) :D
 
No.. it shouldn't take a day.. it will take around 20-30 mins for a 500gb hdd! (estimate)

PS: i'm going to bed i will be bak in about 6 hours..
 
Hi, yes i tried (and the two archive disks needed some hours, LOL) ..... no bad sectors, no "orphan" files, nothing wrong, and the disk is still used from i-don't-know-what process :p ..... also right now ..... i'm surfing LPF, emule is using it at 25% constant, and anvir say me disk F 75% use (C: 1% (firefox), D and E: 0%)

I think the next time i have a full day of time, i save all the works and docs, reformat and reinstall the safety image, at this point ..... i'm still curious to know what the hell is using the disk, but i suspect that, if is a hidden process from the OS, or some new type of pest (that AV cannot yet detect), there's few to do :(
 
did you run it on all disks? if so.. i think the last resort is to repair windows its self... i recommend to back up all your work and doc (as you mentioned!) then boot from the xp cd and click R when prompted to repair windows... this will save you reinstalling all the programs and settings on your pc.. but if you feel like reformatting.. that will definatly solve the problem!

hope I have helped! I would appreciate rep.. but only if you think I am worthy of it (not asking just saying!)... any other questions do hesitate to ask! -Adrian
 
Yes, first i try to repair the install, but in the past, i found that repairs works approximatively 30% of the times ..... for this reason, i made a recovery image with Acronis, just after the installation of all OS, drivers and main programs ..... so, if something wrong happens (or something strange, like this), i can reinstall all in half hour, or few more, instead go a full day (i just need a full day for scan, classify and save 200Gb of works and data and docs, anyway :p)

But i decided to wait some day ..... i just got a reply from Pandasoftware, to a question i sent them a pair of days ago, that say me that they are rearranging and updating their online definitions with some new strange things just discovered (and that are still not in the public updates, til they don't check them better) ..... they suggested me to wait til next week, then retry an online scan ..... so, before reinstall all, i want to try also this, just for the curiosity.

In the meantime, thanks for all the help :)
 
When you're not doing anything else, open task manager, disable your antivirus scanners, go to process view and end all the tasks run under your username (including explorer, AV, everything), and the non-vital ones running as system, except for the core system processes. This should reduce HD activity to a bare minimum. If it's still chugging away, you know it's a system process, driver or hidden process causing this. To bring your system back to normal, reboot the machine and re-enable AV.

Disclaimer: Whilst doing the above should not cause any major issues, I can't be held responsible for anything that happens. Do at your own risk.
 


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