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What wizardry did you do to get a 490nm dot out of 980? Some type of frequency doubling I assume, but how?
My $15 5mW 980nm from Laserlands on eBay seems to be generating a weak second harmonic at 490nm. It's brighter than the primary since I can see the 490 dot but not the 980 dot. On the other hand, the human eye is 245 million times as sensitive to 490 as to 980. I'm guessing the 490 output on this thing is 4-20 picowatts. It seems to be coming from the lens. Even though lasers like flat mirrors, every curved survace is locally flat. It's probably bouncing off the tip of the lens and bouncing back and forth inside the lens. Maybe flattening and polishing the tip of the lens would make it work better, but I don't have the precision equipment to do that.
I've started a company that makes color vision testing products. One of our first tests it for engineers who work with Blu-ray DVD and need to be able to see the color of 405 nm. I believe this diagnostic self-test may be helpful.
I've been noticing for quite some time that the beam of my 405nm 200mW laser doesn't look the same color as the dot.. The dot is the usual violet and the beam is more of a greyish tone. At first I thought that could be something on the air fluorescing but rules that out because the beam can't be seen with 405nm goggles.
The only other explanation I can think of is that a weak beam of 405nm isn't strong enough to trigger photopic vision, which would explain why it looks considerably brighter than a similar 650nm beam (our scotopic vision is better on the blue end) and the greyish color.
Does everyone see the beams greyish? Can anyone confirm my hypothesis or explain this?
Up! I received my 5mW 980nm pen today.
It shows up strongly on a detector card (as opposed to 808nm, which shows weakly). My phone camera picks it well, as a sort of whitish red, which is sort of different from the whitish "purple" from 808nm.
Now for the coolest part... it does project a dot which is visible in a totally dark room, but the dot isn't IR (I verified with an IR filter). I can't quite make out the color of the dot (looks like indistinct grey "scotopic color" to me), but I'm willing to bet it's the second harmonic at 490nm. It's very unstable and I can't even make sure it's a coherent line.
I'll meter the pen with the IR filter later, if it's safe (<1mW) I might attempt "the experiment".
Today I metered my 980nm "5mW" pen... a whopping 81mW. So if you are thinking about viewing one directly or even shining on brushed metal - DON'T!
Today I metered my 980nm "5mW" pen... a whopping 81mW. So if you are thinking about viewing one directly or even shining on brushed metal - DON'T!
OTOH I metered it with an IR filter and the Ophir doesn't even pick it up. Some IR does escape (the camera can see it) but it's cerainly far less than 1mW. My meter can detect a 1mW laser just fine.
After I made absolutely sure it was <1mW I tried to look into it... and there it was. A shiny blueish green light. Not quite cyan to my eyes, more like what I expected from 500nm or so. Bright like when you look straight into a high-power LED. I can't be sure it's monochromatic, but it doesn't spread much on a grating and is surely narrow-band enough not to be LED emission.
DON'T TRY THIS AT HOME UNLESS YOU'VE METERED THE LASER WITH THE EXACT SAME IR FILTER YOU'RE USING, AND YOU KNOW FOR SURE YOUR METER PICKS <1mW!!!!!
Yep, figured as much when you said you could see the dot across the room. I've got a true 5mW 780nm and I can see the spot across the room on a white wall only when the room is dark/dim. I've tested <1mW 848nm and I could just barely see it when looking head on into the aperture.