The Zeus are here!

[GSS]

Congrats MC! You actually got the green one too. If it really is 1W you got a really nice laser despite the back door deal.

Again, I just want to reiterate to everyone that this is the Thor H2 from laserpointerstore.com, re-labeled as Zeus. For clarity purposes.
That said, I'm interested to see if they made any slight changes to it.

Either way, they look very nice and I hope you enjoy your new weapons toys
I have a Thor M2 445nm 1.6W coming myself as my first "real" laser.

Blah, blah, blah...

And so the most suspenseful tale we've had in a while is coming to an end...

Happy Halloween everyone.

Cheers.

Snecho, may I ask why you had to remind ManCave and the forum at this "point" that his Zeus laser's are a Thor copy?????????????????????????
He know's, the forum know's and it was mentioned 100 times on ManCave's other threads to what this laser is.. Also I hope you don't say it was because some posts were deleted when Avery did some forum maintanence, because these units have been around for years...or because you wanted to know if it was changed a bit

Another thing to think off....Laserpointerstore.com aka "Tommy" did not make these units. He did exactly what Zeus lasers did, he took a nice host and gave it the Thor name..

Back door deal??? and a hint of being used as weapons just because the seller bundled shipped a couple lasers. You make it sound like there was devious activity's
You need to chill a bit..

 

[GSS]

ManCave,
If that's a true NDG7475 520, it's just about or is the strongest green diode out there as far as I know!

 

[ManCave]

ManCave,
If that's a true NDG7475 520, it's just about or is the strongest green diode out there as far as I know!

Well, he has been on the level all along. I can‘t check, the diode is tightly encased, and I might have to break the host to get it out. But so far, I have no reason to doubt him. The beam is certainly strong and bright. We got pissed last night and didn’t take pictures of 520nm beam after all. Will try to post some tonight.
Cheers!
Ps: cut Snecho some slack, he is only 19 and like me, new to the forum. I don’t think he meant to break the rules. He’s sure enthusiastic and eager to learn. I have no doubt that in time, he will fall in line and become a good asset to us all.

 

[GSS]

No problem my friend!! I come to think of myself as a nice easy going man, yes at times I might lash out, but alot has been going on here for a couple years now with trolls and trolling. Not saying Snecho is.. Not a excuse though... Will do and kudos for being a nice guy!

 

[ManCave]

No problem my friend!! I come to think of myself as a nice easy going man, yes at times I might lash out, but alot has been going on here for a couple years now with trolls and trolling. Not saying Snecho is.. Not a excuse though... Will do and kudos for being a nice guy!

Thank you buddy.
You are a nice guy!
We all have our ups and downs, no big deal.
Cheers!

 

[GSS]

So "pissed" in the UK means hammered or drunk or bombed??

 

[ManCave]

So "pissed" in the UK means hammered or drunk or bombed??

Pretty much. Had to put the lasers away as my mates were getting dangerous... Was a good night tho!
Took a (what I think) is a very funny picture, it’s on the pictures forums, check it out when you have some time.
Cheers!

 

[paul1598419]

Well, he has been on the level all along. I can‘t check, the diode is tightly encased, and I might have to break the host to get it out. But so far, I have no reason to doubt him. The beam is certainly strong and bright. We got pissed last night and didn’t take pictures of 520nm beam after all. Will try to post some tonight.
Cheers!
Ps: cut Snecho some slack, he is only 19 and like me, new to the forum. I don’t think he meant to break the rules. He’s sure enthusiastic and eager to learn. I have no doubt that in time, he will fall in line and become a good asset to us all.

Even if you could pull the diode out, you still couldn't tell if it is the true 1 watt version or the lower 700 mW version. They look the same. Only testing can tell.

 

[ManCave]

Even if you could pull the diode out, you still couldn't tell if it is the true 1 watt version or the lower 700 mW version. They look the same. Only testing can tell.

That’s my understanding, and the reason I asked if someone close to me with a LPM wanted to chime in and help on my first post.
‘Alas, we are on page three and no joy.
Looks like I will have to buy one myself. LaserBee will be much too expensive once I add shipping and customs fees.. I am waiting for Francis to replay my enquirers about the Tracer.... Will keep you guys posted when and if I ever get to measure these lasers.
‘Cheers.

 

[GSS]

500, 600, 700, 1W of 520 is going to be BRIGHT either way.
I'm pretty sure you are at 1W anyway's. To me green lasers are more for beam pic and the stronger blues for burning..
I do get wanting to know just how much power though..

 

[Encap]

Why do you want to pick apart and buy an expensive LPM to measure the output of a toy quality laser used for entertainment purposes and worth very little to begin with and an almost nothing resale value?
What difference does it/can it make? What is the purpose that makes measuring it necessary?
They are what they are regardless. Just use them safely and enjoy what you have.
Seems to be "much ado about nothing" really.

More important is to get/obtian a good pair of laser safety goggles and don't expose anyone else to eye hazard/damage either---damage to eyesight by lasers is instant and usually permanent.
See: https://www.survivallaser.com/Safety_Goggles/cat556089_826120.aspx The same people make complete kits with all the parts to assemble a laser yourself very easily that are way better/higher quality than what you bought if you want to give easy no skills building a try, as well.
See Laser Hazard Chart here: https://www.lasersafetyfacts.com/resources/FAA---visible-laser-hazard-calcs-for-LSF-v02.png
See detailed information and explanation at this excellent web site on laser safety and related laser topics : https://www.laserpointersafety.com/

Keep in mind to double visual brightness requires 4X the output power for any given wavelength, so a 4W 445nm is double the brightness of a 1W 445nm a 4W 520nm doujble the brightness of a 1W and so on.
Also, a 1W green should be approx 10X visually brighter than a 1W 445nm blue based on standardized eye sensitivity of defined ideal human visual system eyesight.

You would be much better off buying a better quality laser than a Tracer LPM for $350 to measure a the output of a $50-$150 laser.

Maybe to to a University that has an LPM and ask them to measure it for you are just curious or ask them to let you measure it.

 

[ManCave]

500, 600, 700, 1W of 520 is going to be BRIGHT either way.
I'm pretty sure you are at 1W anyway's. To me green lasers are more for beam pic and the stronger blues for burning..
I do get wanting to know just how much power though..

Here‘s a pic of the green one. Target is about 15 meters away.
Sorry about the quality, it is raining a little and I didn’t want to hung about in the garden.
Looks bright enough to me.

 

[ManCave]

Why do you want to pick apart and LPM a insignificant toy quality laser worth very little to begin with and an almost nothing resale value?
What difference does it/can it make? What is the purpose that makes measuring it necessary?
They are what they are regardless. Just use them safely and enjoy what you have.
Seems to be "much ado about nothing" really.

Well, They sure are not “toy quality” In fact, I am quite impressed with their cost/quality ratio.
As I have said in previous posts, I want to measure output, because I am curious to find out real vs claimed. Also, other member have indicated interest in knowing too.

Get a good pair of laser safety goggles and don't expose anyone else to eye hazard either---damage to eyesight by lasers is usually permanent.
See: https://www.survivallaser.com/Safety_Goggles/cat556089_826120.aspx The same people make complete kits with all the parts to assemble a laser yourself very easily that are way better/higher quality than what you bought if you want to give easy no skills building a try, as well.
See Laser Hazard Chart here: https://www.lasersafetyfacts.com/resources/FAA---visible-laser-hazard-calcs-for-LSF-v02.png
See detailed information and explanation at this excellent web site on laser safety and related laser topics : https://www.laserpointersafety.com/

As I have said before, I have several pairs of safety glasses, including a couple from EP, I have also told you in at least two occasions that, unless I have no other choice, I am reluctant to import from outside the EU. Import charges and all that jazz!

My friends are about my age, we are all in our 50’s, well educated and, conscious of what we play with. Don’t worry, we are safe, even when we get hammered.

Keep in mind to double visual brightness requires 4X the output power for any given wavelength, so a 4W 445nm is double the brightness of a 1W 445nm.
A 1W green should be approx 10X visually brighter than a 1W 445nm blue based on standardized eye sensitivity of defined ideal human visual system eyesight.

I am aware of this, but thank you for reminding me.

You would be much better off buying a better quality laser than a Tracer LPM for $350 to measure a the output of a $50 laser.

I am only thinking of buying an LPM. But, if I do, I am sure it will be used with future purchases and DIY builds, so worry not, I will get my money’s worth.
Also FYI, it’s 60$ But of course, you have to add... Batteries, safety glasses (cheap and worthless than they are) charger, star attachment, and the cheap case. Oh, shipping too, and once it gets to the U.K. handling and custom charges. All in, I paid the right price and got it faster from a EU seller that, if not happy, will accept returns 30 days after purchase. Not too shabby I think.

Maybe to to a University that has an LPM and ask them to measure it for you or let you measure it

WTF?.... Yes, Encap, universities are always happy to let any old soul that walks in use their equipment. I’ll sure give it a try!

Cheers!

Ps: Sorry for the double post, I was busy with other things and that took some time to compose.

 

[paul1598419]

That’s my understanding, and the reason I asked if someone close to me with a LPM wanted to chime in and help on my first post.
‘Alas, we are on page three and no joy.
Looks like I will have to buy one myself. LaserBee will be much too expensive once I add shipping and customs fees.. I am waiting for Francis to replay my enquirers about the Tracer.... Will keep you guys posted when and if I ever get to measure these lasers.
‘Cheers.

I'd be happy to measure them for you, but since you are in the UK it wouldn't be practical. I could also give you the exact wavelength of both.

 

[Encap]

PS Most all of the Laserbee units are less expensive than the Sanwu Tracer at $350.
Laserbee units are available for a low as $139 that would suit your purpose see: https://www.laserbeelpm.com/laserbee-ax.html
Might be worth having another look.

 

[Snecho]

Snecho, may I ask why you had to remind ManCave and the forum at this "point" that his Zeus laser's are a Thor copy?????????????????????????
He know's, the forum know's and it was mentioned 100 times on ManCave's other threads to what this laser is.. Also I hope you don't say it was because some posts were deleted when Avery did some forum maintanence, because these units have been around for years...or because you wanted to know if it was changed a bit

Another thing to think off....Laserpointerstore.com aka "Tommy" did not make these units. He did exactly what Zeus lasers did, he took a nice host and gave it the Thor name..

Back door deal??? and a hint of being used as weapons just because the seller bundled shipped a couple lasers. You make it sound like there was devious activity's
You need to chill a bit..

Hi GSS!

I mentioned that it is the same exact model as the Thor H2 because Red was asking specifics about what kind of tailcap it has, what kind of lens, heatsink..etc. All of which would be exactly the same as the Thor H2 which there is plenty information of already. I was not reminding ManCave of that, as he already knows.

And yes, Tommy isn't the manufacturer, It is just that Tommy took the hosts and created the Thor series, to which then everyone else started doing the same and calling them different things like Zeus, high powered laser..etc. That's why to keep things nice and orderly in my mind, I refer to the Thors as the original model of the now hundreds of similar lasers selling from questionable sources. It keeps things simple.

As for the "Weapons," I was making a joke about how ManCave's new powerful lasers look like badass laser weapons.
As for the "Back door deal," I was quoting and calling back Paul's direct words about the way this eBay transaction was handled. Note: This was from MC's original thread which was lost in the backup.

I didn't see how I was "breaking rules" or how I was acting obstreperous with that message, but sorry if that was the assumption and hope this clears up any confusion!

Also...

I'd contact the company for a refund because they sent you the wrong laser.
See here
The HLONS (HMMWV Laser Ordnance Neutralization System), commonly known as ZEUS, is a solid-state laser weapon which is used by the U.S. military in order to neutralize surface land mines and unexploded ordnance. The ZEUS-HLONS system was a co-operative effort between Sparta Inc and NAVEODTECHDIV (Naval Explosive Ordnance Disposal Technology Division) to demonstrate that a moderate-power commercial solid state laser (SSL) and beam control system could be integrated onto a Humvee (HMMWV) and used to clear surface mines, improvised explosive devices (IEDs), or unexploded ordnance from supply routes and minefields.

Zeus-HLONS - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Start video at about 3 minutes .

That's actually flippin' hilarious!! I completely forgot about the ZEUS system