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What I'm wondering is what would happen if a photon was detected but the results of the detection were never viewed by a sapient being. Would its probabilistic wave function collapse or would it continue to go through both slits?
 
gazer101 said:
What I'm wondering is what would happen if a photon was detected but the results of the detection were never viewed by a sapient being. Would its probabilistic wave function collapse or would it continue to go through both slits?
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There are two things to consider there. First is it a collapse of a wave function or is it decoherence. And secondly, what is a 'observer'?
 
CurtisOliver said:
There are two things to consider there. First is it a collapse of a wave function or is it decoherence. And secondly, what is a 'observer'?
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Yeah, it would be really great if someone experimentally tested this strange "observer" thing and how it influences the behavior. Can't believe I haven't found anything on it yet, please let me know if you do
 
I’ve been looking into the observer thing for years, from what I currently gather, observation does not need to have a connection to consciousness at all. Probably how it is, otherwise we do indeed live in a strange universe. Lots of things can collapse the probability wave function.
 
NOPE, sorry, we are each not that important, the physical world doesn't change based on our observation alone, now if the way we observe imparts influence that's different, but our simply knowing will not impart influence, also if this experiment is sending a beam rather than a single photon then it's not the same as the original double slit experiment.

To suggest the boogie man is pulling a fast one unless we are watching is just nonsense.......any boogie man with such ability would have so many better things to do, besides we are each not that important.
 
Very interesting video. Prevailing concensus from my understanding is that the wavefunction collapse does not need consciousness to occur.


This is a great video explaining it a lot better than I would be able too:


 
Yes, Robert and Simon. It appears humans are not the factors that affect reality. Merely a part of it instead. What my article does above is help prove that. They ran an experiment with 6bn years+ old entangled photons. No chance of human involvement there.

But it also should be noted that experiments have been done in the past that shows our observations (equipment and our eyes, not consciousness stuff) can in fact break our idea of linear time. Like a change in outcome in the delayed choice experiments.

I'm not so much convinced in the wavefunction collapse theory. I had this discussion with a quantum chemist, and we both came to a resolution in that both outcomes don't cease to exist but we just can only see one outcome at a time. I am very much in favour of a multiverse.

Edit: If once a photon 'decided' to behave as a particle or a wave, this outcome should then be set in stone if the opposing outcome collapsed. This is not the case in reality.
 
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Interesting, so any observation collapses the wave function? If you place a detector but never turn it on the photon would continue acting as a wave right?
 
From my understanding, it isn't a collapse. And it isn't the sole idea of an observation but an action of observing that changes the outcome. Think of it like this. Put a camera detector in the way and what would of been some photons freely travelling are now in fact absorbed by the detector. I don't like using this theory very much but the simplest way to describe the notion of what i'm on about is chaos. Every little action effects the outcome. Without the exaggerated part of the theory.
 
Are there no ways to detect photons without disturbing them? In entangled photons would measuring the 2nd one cause them both to behave as particles, or would only the measured one behave as a particle while the other remains as a wave?
 
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