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Unown (WILD)

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Garoq you made a second account. This was a seriously bad move on your part. It not only gives a reason for a permaban but it makes your side of this case questionable. We have legitimate concerns from customers and your responses have been childish, personal and unprofessional. Your alt account will be terminated. You do anything like this again and you're out.
I suggest that you change your attitude to these claims made by real concerned customers about the quality of these products instead of getting personally offended, before you do something else stupid.
 



Garoq

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Garoq you made a second account. This was a seriously bad move on your part. It not only gives a reason for a permaban but it makes your side of this case questionable. We have legitimate concerns from customers and your responses have been childish, personal and unprofessional. Your alt account will be terminated. You do anything like this again and you're out.
I suggest that you change your attitude to these claims made by real concerned customers about the quality of these products instead of getting personally offended, before you do something else stupid.I did not make another account.
That is a lie, I did not make another account. I have been completely professional in my responses. Talk about unprofessional, you could have contacted me privately first, instead of telling lies about me publicly.
 

lasingfox

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That is a lie, I did not make another account. I have been completely professional in my responses. Talk about unprofessional, you could have contacted me privately first, instead of telling lies about me publicly.
I honestly do wish he just owned up to it right away and took action. Gary, you are just digging yourself into a deeper hole than you need to be in. I once respected your business since you did sell cheap and apparently good goggles but now, the effort it took to get you to even consider recalling a product with a major safety flaw, and then creating an account to seem like you had someone supporting your side, is seriously bad for you. If you had simply said "We did not realize there was this problem. We will remove it and inform buyers. I'll be more careful and check with the manufacturer for more accurate data. Thanks for bringing this issue up!" it would've been so much better for you. I want to recommend you as a good seller for cheap and effective goggles but your practices just seem scummy and your response pathetic.

Just have a little respect for people who paid money for your products and did work to bring an issue to you. A lot of time and effort went into testing things to make sure it was correct and you not wanting to believe it (or whatever your motive is) is not a quality of a good company. A lot of people trusted your goggles to protect them and I don't want to think about the damage that has been caused due to bloated ratings. Put down the shovel and man up. You're the oldest one of all of us and you're acting the most like a child. I really do want to take you seriously and recommend you to others but at this rate, your reputation is gone and you're going to kill your company.
 

Ears and Eggs

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That is a lie, I did not make another account. I have been completely professional in my responses. Talk about unprofessional, you could have contacted me privately first, instead of telling lies about me publicly.


The IP address of both your account and FancyToolbox's are identical. This is not only dishonest but against forums rules. Members have been banned for this before.


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Garoq

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You both share ip addresses. I usually ban people on the spot but I'm being lenient with you. Don't make me regret that
I did not create another account nor did I post using another name. Another member of my household made their own private and separate account without my knowledge. But now that I know that no other members at or near my house using my wi-fi can have their own accounts. The person that created the account was a Completely different person and should be able to have their own account. I’ve tried to support this forum for many years. Now, someone new comes in with no accreditation and I answer them. They continue to harass our company even after it was addressed. Then you lie and state I’ve opened another account and publicly insult me. You are unprofessional! No one can make comments defending their company after being harrassed for months? Then when someone else near me defends the company with FACTS, suddenly it’s not allowed. I presume you no longer need me supporting this forum if that is your stance. Please cancel my financial support for this forum effectively immediately and stop charging my credit card.

We don’t OWN Eagle Pair! We cannot recall any of their products and have in good will tried to do what we could in regards to this ‘person’s’ claims. His continued badgering constitutes harassment at this point. But you apparently think that is great.
 

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We don’t OWN Eagle Pair! We cannot recall any of their products and have in good will tried to do what we could in regards to this ‘person’s’ claims. His continued badgering constitutes harassment at this point. But you apparently think that is great.

you can't recall their products but you can recall the products YOU sold. its not like you're forced to sell them and you have no will of your own. you are the distributor. You have control of what gets DISTRIBUTED through you. you can recall everything you sold and stop selling them in the future. That is within your power. stop using that as an excuse.
 

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I did not create another account nor did I post using another name. Another member of my household made their own private and separate account without my knowledge.
also what are we in 2005? That's the worse excuse ever. You literally claimed to not have any connection with Gary in your other account. Even if this were to be true, they spoke exactly like you. You talk about freedom a lot. The way you punctuate and put things in parenthesis, The fact that you liked the posts back and fourth. The fact the account was created right after you got a response. Even without the IP, we immediately knew it was you. You couldn't have made it more obvious.
 

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We have already taken action. We did what we were able. No matter what action we take you will continue to harrass. Open your own business and run it the way you choose. There is literally no pleasing someone whose intention is ‘not to be pleased’.
 

lasingfox

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We have already taken action. We did what we were able. No matter what action we take you will continue to harrass. Open your own business and run it the way you choose. There is literally no pleasing someone whose intention is ‘not to be pleased’.
we appreciate that. now stop digging a hole for yourself. do you know how bad that alt makes you look? why would you bother doing that. it just ruins your reputation more. seriously dude just put down the shovel. the only thing you can really do now is admit you were wrong and take down all the faulty listings. those awful IR goggles are still up after showing their blatant flaw. we aren't harassing you. we are giving you criticism based on your actions and products. You are making yourself seem worse day by day for no apparent reason. Discrediting hard work of people trying to improve your store and make it safe. We trusted you at one point. Now even without all the data, you just seem like a bad person.
 

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Also since you say there is nothing unsafe at 514.... think again:
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