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russoschet

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Hello,
(sorry for naming the thread with the key words, I hope that's okay.)

I want to make a laser football goal for my son. I have no idea
how I am supposed to do that but well it's one of his dreams to have such thing
with a Mickey Mouse being a goal keeper.

I want to ask you few things because, to be honest, I have no idea
where I should start from.

I need to make some laser projector that will be able to display a simple animation
on a wall (we have a barn behind our house. I want the football pitch to
be displayed on one of the barn's walls).

So few things I need to ask;

1. Am I able to make a red laser projector only by myself? I'm not into that stuff at all but I like challanges.

2. I want it to be made with red laser and be powered by the solar panels. What parameters would fit my needs
if I want it to be visible in the daylight?

3. Is making a simple animation of a Mickey mouse moving (literally three 'pictures' of Mickey moving from left to right)
hard for someone who is, also, not into that kind of stuff?

That's all I need to know for now. Only basics to know if it is even possible to make.

Thank you in advance for any help.

Merry Christmas!
 
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WizardG

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It's possible, but what are you prepared to spend? The hardware alone will run close to a grand and then you'll also need the software to drive the animation.

There are some pretty inexpensive projectors out there (ali express) you could get for under $1000 that would do what you're after but you also need to consider safety. I don't know if I'd trust these to be eye safe. You don't want to scan your kid's eyes out!

Sorry to grinch you out but.....combining lasers and kids is not the best idea.
 

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Thank you for your reply WizardG!
Yes, I'm aware that lasers aren't safe for your eye. My kid won't play alone, only with me and we will take all safety measures.

What red laser projector would be the best for the daylight? I want it to be like 15-20 feet (5-6m) away from the wall.
 

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What Country are you in? Laser laws, rules, and regulations vary from Country to Country.
What is the meaning of the word "storn" that you mention twice?
 
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What Country are you in? Laser laws, rules, and regualtion vary from Country to Country.
What is the meaning of the word "storn" that you mention twice?
oh, I meant barn, not storn. I have no idea how this word appeared...
I'm from central Europe
 

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oh, I meant barn, not storn. I have no idea how this word appeared...
I'm from central Europe

OK, well as Wizard has said above + sounds like a lot of serious levels of knowledge, education, and specialized skills and a considerable money would be required to even attempt build/putting together something to do what you have imagined in imagination even to run it at night or inside in a dark room + you add in daylight + you add in solar powered complications that much more on top of everything else.
Red is also a poor choice especially in daylight --not very visible compared to 532nm green which is about 8X visually brighter than 650nm red at same output power.

Maybe contact Kvant Lasers is Slovikia see what they have to say--they make great laser projectors and programable controllers, do laser shows, and so on + would know the laser laws of whatever Country you are in. They may know of people who could do what you want to do and explain what is involved in the real world to do it see: https://www.kvantlasers.sk/

Other than that you might want to ask people over at the Photolexicon forums which are much more about laser projectors, laser show animation and related than here on LPF. See: https://www.photonlexicon.com/forum...d-Scanning?s=137f93a9e3a35e437f4cdc0d9a26c7af

You can also ask the ILDA/International Laser Display Association
people. See: https://www.ilda.com/

LPF is mostly just about laser pointers

I wish you good luck however it sounds overall like the daydreamed device and envisioned illusions to be created by it are going to have to remain just daydreams without a very long time to learn how to accomplish/create and program such a device and even then would involve considerable expense as well.
 
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Why not just use a regular projector and play a video of the animation? Heck I can make you the animation you'd just need to buy a video projector.
 

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Why not just use a regular projector and play a video of the animation? Heck I can make you the animation you'd just need to buy a video projector.

The point is I need a projector that will be 'poweful' enough to display the animation on a wall during daylight and in the same time be able to be charged by the solar energy.

What would be the cheapest option?
 

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Then get a projector that is powerful enough to do that. I don't know what else you want.
Having this kind of setup running solely on solar energy isn't going to work. You need a lot of solar panels which will cost too much. Why does it have to be on solar power anyway?
 

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The point is I need a projector that will be 'poweful' enough to display the animation on a wall during daylight and in the same time be able to be charged by the solar energy.

What would be the cheapest option?
Why troll internet forums with such nonsensical requirements?
You might as well say you want it all to be nuclear powered and a 3 dimensional hologram of a soccer goal and an animated Mickey Mouse as that isn't going to happen either. lol

Internet forums are not the place for any real answer. You need to consult with vendors who can supply laser and video projectors + programing, and then consult solar power people, then consult the owners of Disney character images, then consult with someone about weatherproofing the whole mess and making it stable in wind and so on to get a grip on the realities and costs of all that would involved and if anyone would even think it feasible and worthwhile enough to bother with--at any price.

Is very obvious what you want is an imagined mix of technologies and programing of same that doesn't exist and for an imagined/fictional and frivolous one-off purpose.
The whole thing is an uneducated little kid daydream mix of not doable nonsense for a nonsense purposes that does not exist and there is no demand for.

Try reality --buy your kid a soccer goal/cage and a ball that you can play with him with in the backyard. see: https://www.thisisamericansoccer.com/equipment/best-backyard-soccer-goals

Direct sunlight/daylight has about 120,000 lux or lumens of brightness and requires a whopping 120,000 lumen of brightness to be overcome, which isn’t available from in any projector in existence.
Epson Powerlite L610 wireless laser projector costs about $2500.00 to $3,500.00 on sale depending on supplier and has an output 6000 lumen so....
There are a few 12,000 lumen projectors you could try in the $20,000 to $28,000 price range with no guarantee it would be visible in full daylight--both would work outdoors in very shady areas or in twilight with a proper front or rear highly reflective projection screen. In full daylight --very doubtful. Solar powered, forget it. All of the problems with outdoor use environment weather, wind and so on, notwithstanding.

Tell your kid, if there even is one and you are not the kid, to get a different daydream preferably one that has something to do with what exists in the real world.
 
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Why troll internet forums with such nonsensical requirements?
You might as well say you want it all to be nuclear powered and a 3 dimensional hologram of a soccer goal and an animated Mickey Mouse as that isn't going to happen either. lol

Internet forums are not the place for any real answer. You need to consult with vendors who can supply laser and video projectors + programing, and then consult solar power people, then consult the owners of Disney character images, then consult with someone about weatherproofing the whole mess and making it stable in wind and so on to get a grip on the realities and costs of all that would involved and if anyone would even think it feasible enough to bother with--at any price.

Is very obvious what you want is an imagined mix of technologies and programing of same that doesn't exist and for an imagined/fictional and frivolous one-off purpose.
The whole thing is an uneducated little kid daydream mix of not doable nonsense for a nonsense purposes that does not exist and there is no demand for.

Try reality --buy your kid a soccer goal/cage and a ball that you can play with him with in the backyard. see:

Direct sunlight is 120,000 lumens and requires a whopping 120,000 lumen of brightness to overcome, which isn’t available in any projector in existence.
Epson Powerlite L610 wireless laser projector costs about $2500.00 to $3,500.00 on sale depending on supplier and has an output 6000 lumen so....
There are a few 12,000 lumen projectors you could try in the $20,000 to $28,000 price range with no guarantee it would be visible in full daylight--both would work outdoors in very shady areas or in twilight with a proper front or rear highly reflective projection screen. In full daylight --very doubtful. Solar powered, forget it. All of the problems with outdoor use environment weather, wind and so on, notwithstanding.

Tell your kid, if there even is one and you are not the kid, to get a different daydream preferably one that has something to do with what exists in the real world.
I'm sorry, I didn't mean to sound 'trolly'. I've should just form my question like 'is it possible to have a laser animation displayed in the daylight' instead of asking for the direct link to purchase the device.
I'm ignorant in that matter that's why I decieded to ask on this forum.
I saw some YT videos of people playing around with green lasers in the daylight- and they (lasers) were visible. I thought it's possible to have a simple animation displayed by red laser.
Thanks for clarifying.
 




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