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Rayfoss 200mW Focusable Laser Torch - Extensive Review

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Heya guys, the review is for this product: http://rayfoss.com/productn.asp?ArticleID=34

16/05/10 The laser I received had no led. I suspect this model is not exactly the one I received but a similar one. However, this one seems to have a worse divergence, in the order of 2mRad. Contact Silvershot or check for more reviews of this product with LED for more info about the specific model you're probably going to receive. Faona, however, told me that users could ask for the no-led version if they wanted to.

Here I go.

As you know I've been around here for some months and after owning some of the dealextreme green laser pointers, the dilda, and a phr, I had tested all the colors available for a poor man, so I decided to do my final buy.

Honestly, the red color is kinda boring, this color is available for 2$ in dealextreme, and the beam is nothing compared to any green laser. The burning power is good, but the phr was doing the same, so I finally sold the dilda.

The phr amazed me more for the fluorescence than for anything else, the burning power is OK and the beam is really poor, as well as the range, a 5mW red pointer reach further. the color is cool, but I got bored of it at the end, si I sold it recently to a member of the forum.

The dealextreme pens are great if you have never seen a green beam, but at the end they can't burn, they eat the batteries as hell and the button always gets bitchy.

At this point, I wanted something with a long range, an amazing beam and an amazing burning power, and a high powered green seemed to be the only option. And here I started to look for a 200mW~ green laser. Dealextreme and focalprice got discarded since the first moment, and optotronics and similars had really high prices, not to mention the 1000$ WL were asking...

So , rayfoss and O-like caught my attention, specially the unit that I finally purchased. I liked it since the first moment and when I had almost decided its buy, some reviews from other members stopped me. They reported bad divergence, and that the laser had started mode hoping at the second day. This really scared me, and I mailed Faona about it. This was the reply:

the 200mw laser with a normal divergence is also can burn match easily.
Just the burn point of the beam is far from the aperture (80-100mm away aperure)not like the short focus laser near to the aperture(15-30mm away from aperture).

and...

For </=200mW green laser the power performance is not stable is truth. Unless the user operate it according to it's duty circle i.e after each 60 seconds constantly lighting to cool down the laser for 5-10 seconds then re-light. Do this can keep a long lifespan and stable performance of the laser.This is also why a lot of seller don't sell 200mw version as most of user will not obey the laser's duty circle in use.

And well, as the offer was really really attractive, I couldn't resist and bought it. I didn't have to pay shipping because I ordered it together with a 150mW waterproof green laser for a friend (which btw, is great, but I won't review it since I haven't used it for that long).

Two days later I got the shipment confirmation and a week later the package arrived.

The first surprise was that it was way smaller than I thought, also, it had a safety lock with key instead the safety pin advertised and it didn't had a led like shown on the photos, but after this minor surprise, I looked at the instructions (crappy English btw) and after looking at how the battery should be inserted I opened the shutter, turned the key and pressed the button and WOAH lol this thing is damn powerful. My eyes really suffered when looked at the dot on a white wall, so I went to pick the protective goggles from Focalprice and some matches and omg, again i was astonished, it ignited them faster than the dildas or the phr, when well focused the matches get lighted just at-the-touch.

The laser feels solid and heavy, the battery lasts for so long, and I have the impression it has a proper driver since the power doesn't seem to get down as the battery drops. Also, the focusing ring is really nice and solid. I also told Faona that I wanted a unit with good divergence, and lol, this one rocks, around 1 mrad~

At ten meters, the beam diameter is not a perfect circle and I don't know if I should measure it all or just the brightest part, but measuring the brightest part at the shortest distance gives you a 9mm dot, if you get the big one of the full dot it's 13mm, in every case it's a 1mrad~, which is really really good.

The dimensions are this ones.

Full lenght: 15,8 cm
Head diameter: 2,9 cm
Body diameter: 2,2 cm

According to Faona, who tested the power with and without IR filter, this laser performs like this:

The following is the test result:
Item RF532-200mW-FLX
Without IR power output is 210mw stable
After IR filter the power output is 160mW stable

I've waited for almost 2 weeks of daily use to make sure it didn't mode hope or something, but until now it has performed perfectly, and I'm really pleased with it. Dealing with www.rayfoss.com was always easy, and Faona is a really kind girl. She even sent me an adaptor for free so I could charge it on the European plug. All in all, I would recommend this laser to every laser enthusiast that is willing to get his first serious laser.

Some photos here:

http://img12.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=134056.jpg

(the beam photos are one of the beam of this laser, one of the beam of a DX true 50 and another of the two beams together)

And a crappy video review here:



For the ones interested in the tripod: http://laserpointerforums.com/f52/dealextreme-tripod-clamp-100-usefull-laser-holding-40701.html

Thanks for reading and watching.

Yours,
Albert
 
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Good review Albert...

but I thought this would be an Extensive Review of the 200mW
Green from Rayfoss...

Did you test it on a Laser Power Meter to verify what Rayfoss told
you...???:thinking:
Was there a Laser Power Chart supplied with the Laser...???

I have a tendency to believe what I can see... touch... and test...
(Not saying that Rayfoss is dishonest)... but the Laser could have
had the crystals misaligned in transit... China is a long ways away...

The question arises by what you stated about your Review Laser did
not have a Power ON indicator LED... as the Rayfoss link photos clearly
show...

What was the beam diameter at the aperture...???
At what distance did you check the divergence...???
Did you verify that at 10 Meters the dot was 18mm as Rayfoss
states...???

What were the dimensions of the Laser (Diameter X length)...???
How much does it weigh...???

I might get one... but I think I would get it from O-Like...
I might be biased... Susie did buy a Deluxe LaserBee I from us
and could easily supply a Power Chart/Graph....;)


Jerry
 
Watch the video to see the dimensions, anyway I'm adding them soon. Also, I don't got a meter, sorry :(

Also, chek that the led appears on a photo, but not in the others.

Dimensions and dot size measurements atached.
 
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Hell yeah, Spanglish FTW.

Adding to RT. I do agree with Jerry, though; you could use some images since it doesn't look the same as the one on rayfoss.
 
Hell yeah, Spanglish FTW.

Adding to RT. I do agree with Jerry, though; you could use some images since it doesn't look the same as the one on rayfoss.

yeah lol I get really nervous in the video if that's what you mean xD If you fnd some big mistakes on the text, feel free to tell me so I can edit them :D

The photos are next to the video, can't you load them?
 
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You're a lifesaver!
I'm also contemplating investing in that laser as well!

Your review helped heaps! Thanks!

P.S: Isn't that DX clamp just so convenient and awesome? Such a brilliant buy! Cheap as well! :p
 
i've added a link to the tripod and clamp thread I made some time ago ;) Also, I'm uploading the photos to the forums directly so you can find them easier.
 
Hey Albert...
I just watched your Video...
I was a little disturbed by what I saw...

It seems to me that you were not wearing safety goggles when making
the video...
You seem to see very small details like the on/off colored dots of the
keyswitch that I could not even see in the video (at about 2:23 min)

@ 2:37 min.... you turned the Laser ON and could not see the beam...
so you pointed the laser at your face.... to look into the aperture...:eek:
That's not even a good thing to do WITH safety goggles...

@ 4:01 min... I See you shine the laser on a light colored ceramic tile
directly in front of you....

please-490.gif
tell me I'm wrong....and that you were wearing safety goggles...


Jerry
 
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oh lol, ofc I was wearing the googles, that's why I confused the red dot with the green dot and thought the laser was ON when it was OFF xD

Also, I didn't show my face because it looks kinda freak with those freak googles lol, also I didin't point the laser at my face, I was looking if the shutter was opened or not! and what's wrong in shining the laser at the floor with googles?

Yours,
Albert
 
O-like isn't selling this one anymore exactly for what faona told me, people don't respect the duty cycle and then they complain about the laser mode hoping etc, so to avoid problems they just don't sell it.

Yours,
Albert
 
Hey Albert...
if you were wearing goggles... nothing is wrong with shinning a 200mW
532nm Laser at a light colored ceramic floor...

BTW...The added info helps your review...:cool:

As to goggles... the ones I use for Grn.. I made myself (after testing them)..
They are good for Green and IR....

If you want so see ugly goggles... these are what I use for 532nm....:eek:

Grn-IR.jpg




Jerry
 
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Don't worry man, first videos are like that... just look at the video I made of the Evo Pro... I had to shoot it 5 times to get it right (I messed up and started swearing, both in English AND Spanish :p). Practice makes perfect ;)
 
Don't worry man, first videos are like that... just look at the video I made of the Evo Pro... I had to shoot it 5 times to get it right (I messed up and started swearing, both in English AND Spanish :p). Practice makes perfect ;)

Ah, you too? I made a video but i messed up so bad that I didn't try a third time.

Light condition/coulnt hear/it didn't record



This is one interesting laser, also don't shine it on ceramic.. The reflection... Thanks for putting this review up!


WTF Jerry, those goggles are....... Cool (at least u has them)
 





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