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Pulsar or Orion

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When playing with my laser my wife told me she wants a red one (i didn't expected she actually wanted one herself),
I was thinking about making one myself from a DVD burner, but i'll fry the diode for sure when I give it a try. (i'm good in programming stuff but when i work with my hands things usually go wrong)
So instead of ruining at least 6 DVD burners before I get the diode out correcty I think it's better (and in the end cheaper) to buy one that is ready to go.

So the only options we have are the Orion(650nm) and Pulsar.
The Pulsar has a lower price but i just can't get that picture of Steve out of my head. ;D
Or are these Ebay reds good enough? (for the reds i don't have to worry about IR after all)
 

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I highly recommend at least trying the mini dorcy mod. It will cost you $17.50 for the diode and $20 for the flashlight. Even if you fry 1 diode, you are saving yourself at least $100.
 
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Get the pulsar and focus mod it. I have an Orion I could sell you at discount if you make that choice, but personall I would suggest the pulsar. Other than the lower power and unregulated power, it beats the Orion (which doesn't even use a single-mode diode) hands down
 

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It really comes down to the power and duty cycle that you want. The Orions are built to maintain the >200mW output power over a 100% duty cycle, so you can leave them on as long as you like and still get 200mW of power! I don't think that this is something that you can do with a pen-style laser like the Pulsar. Another advantage of the Orion is that it is a legal product and fully FDA compliant. This means that we don't have to violate US import laws to ship you the laser, and there is no risk of seizure when the product enters the US. Also, the safety features which make the Orion FDA compliant really do make the device more safe to use. If you have kids around (or irresponsible roomates) the key and interlock can prevent accidental or unauthorized use of the laser, and since the laser really is very powerful it's nice to have an aperture shutter and delayed output to prevent a "laser-in-the-eye" incident. No one wants a laser in the eye!
 
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Sorry Justin, but I gotta disagree. The Orions square profile, multi-mode diode kills it right there for me. For burning, that makes the pulsar effectively many times more powerful right there. Sure, the Orion has many positives over the pulsar, but this is a pretty all-encompassing negative that explains why I've owned over 5 pulsars, but just 2 Orions.

Perhaps there's some chance you could get units made with nice single-mode diodes? I have still yet to see a good, solid, heavy-duty, and high power portable red with a beam that doesn't look like crap. Perhaps Laserglow can be the one to fill that void?
 

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Psuedo: As usual, your points are valid. The Orion is not a good choice if you want to burn things, unless you use an external lens. The stacked diode array does create a much different beam profile than people are used to seeing with their DPSS greens and small single-diode reds. This problem would be solved if we used a DPSS 671nm red instead of a diode array 660nm (and now 635nm), but the cost would be rediculous. If you really want to burn something a Scorpius-500 would be a much better choice for the money since it has a nice TEM00 beam profile and a huge amount of power. (Or an Aries/Herc, if you need it to be visible.)

However, if you really want a powerful red beam that doesn't lose output power and beam profile is not critical for your application, you can't beat the Orion.
 

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Yes, we changed the name for purely marketing reasons. The laser is the same. Your Hades-808, on the other hand, still whoops everything else that I've seen.

Scorpius = Hades, there is no change in design.
 
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Justin said:
However, if you really want a powerful red beam that doesn't lose output power and beam profile is not critical for your application, you can't beat the Orion.
And your points are too, valid :D. The "beam profile in not critical" part though probably makes it useless for almost any hobbyist. And its not just the beam profile, but the severly worse beam specs that accompany it. Is there any chance of talking CNI into making a version using a single-mode diode?

As is, the pulsar is nearly as stable as the Orion, and for the price its a far better deal. Perhaps if you were selling a 1W 660nm at a reasonable price, the diode would be completely understandable. At just 200mW though, I would think you could easily use a single-mode diode. The profile and beam specs of the Orion make the spot ugly, burning abilities horrible, beam visibility - limited at range, and make it far more difficult and ugly to use in lasershows. I guess there may still be a few scientists left who would put up with the Orion, but it would be a bit of a longshot for a hobbyist if you ask me.
 

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Thanks for the info. :)

I guess that only leaves the Pulsar, (it has to be single mode)

The other lasers mentioned here like the pointer from laserman and Dorcy jr, are these single mode as well?

Oh and i dont have to worry about the FDA cause I live in Europe.(the Netherlands)
 
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Kenom instead of seling your lasers for a flat rate of 150 Dollers your looking around 1$ per mW so just sell them for that.
 

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Hi Kenom

I'm interested in the red lasers but I guess the're all sold out now.
She doesn't want to buy one right away but in about 2 months from now.
Are you planning to make/sell more of these lasers in the near future?
 




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