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Trump continues to "promote" the most undeserving people. He is truly a disaster. I'm glad he takes our diplomatic corps so seriously. 
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Trump continues to "promote" the most undeserving people. He is truly a disaster. I'm glad he takes our diplomatic corps so seriously.
What a typical democrat thing to say paul, democrats are the party of grievances and sore losers.
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WTF are you talking about?! Trump is the grievance president. Look for the House to interrogate Alex Acosta, Trump's pick for secretary of labor, who gave Epstein a sweetheart deal back in 2008. Then the Epstein 50th BD book will be surfacing. Trump sure won't like that.What a typical democrat thing to say paul, democrats are the party of grievances and sore losers.
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So paul, burning American flags in public is free speech, right?
If so paul, then you support burning rainbow flags in public as being an expression of free speech, correct?
What about large gangs walking down city streets wearing white cloaks and pointy hats while saying nigger this and nigger that, protected free speech.... right paul?
Maybe all of these offensive acts could be called, creating a public disturbance? A ticketable infraction anyway.
If so paul, then you support burning rainbow flags in public as being an expression of free speech, correct?
What about large gangs walking down city streets wearing white cloaks and pointy hats while saying nigger this and nigger that, protected free speech.... right paul?
Maybe all of these offensive acts could be called, creating a public disturbance? A ticketable infraction anyway.
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If you are trying to say there are no hate crimes, then no, I disagree. In Orlando, the state painted over the rainbow cross walk to acknowledge the slaying of gay people there. That was definitely a hate crime. Some people, mainly so called Christians, believe killing some people is justified.
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I'm not talking about damaging someone else's property, if you are holding a flag and I take it from you without your permission and I burn it, that is a crime, because I would have stolen and destroyed your property, but that's not what we are talking about.
Now the question is who painted rainbows onto the crosswalks in the 1st place and did they have permission?
If the State painted over them then the rainbows weren't allowed to be there in the 1st place, that is graffiti removal, not a hate crime.
Now if a white supremacist paints over rainbow crosswalks that the city put there, that's property damage, but a hate crime needs to cause damage to someone, it's not just a thought in someone's head.
This is what's wrong with you progressives, you want to control people's thoughts, you call any opposition to your agenda racism, it's not.
When someone physically assaults another person, having set out with the intention to do so based on racial hate, that's a hate crime.
But when someone wins a spontaneous fistfight against a person of a different race, say over a disagreement, that's not a hate crime, even if the person has expressed hate in the past.
Do you understand the difference?
People have the right to hate if they want too, people have the right to say offensive things ( not credible threats of violence ) having expressed hate and committing a crime doesn't make it a hate crime unless the INTENT was to commit the crime based on racial hate, it's a matter of intent, just like murder can be accidental, heat of the moment or pre-meditated.
Here's an example of how you liberals get it wrong, say a person expresses support for deporting illegal immigrants at a town hall meeting and later that person gets into a shoving match with an illegal immigrant over a shopping cart at the grocery, that is not a hate crime just because one person expressed an opinion, but you liberals would like to control people by labeling them and punishing free thought that you don't like, this is another reason why you lost the last election.
Suppose the person speaks a racial epitaph during the shoving match, is that not free speech? You think that makes a mutual shoving match ( spur of the moment ) a hate crime? If you do then you are wrong. Because you liberals want to punish thoughts and speech that you don't like, that is unconstitutional.
People should let go of racism because they learn for themselves that it's wrong, because people have empathy, and most people just want to get along.
But you progressive wokes want to control people and force your agenda, that's why you lost the last election.
Illegal immigration is..... ILLEGAL
Wanting to see our laws enforced is NOT racism.
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Under the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, people cannot be prosecuted simply for their beliefs. People may be offended or upset about beliefs that are untrue or based upon false stereotypes, but it is not a crime to express offensive beliefs, or to join with others who share such views. However, the First Amendment does not protect against committing a crime, just because the conduct is rooted in philosophical beliefs.
Bias or Hate Incident: Acts of prejudice that are not crimes and do not involve violence, threats, or property damage.
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So paul, burning a flag is not a hate crime even though it feels like it to an onlooker, but it could be: creating a public disturbance.
So yes, Trumps flag burning EO is wrong, I expect the court will say so, they already have 5/4 in the past.
Now the question is who painted rainbows onto the crosswalks in the 1st place and did they have permission?
If the State painted over them then the rainbows weren't allowed to be there in the 1st place, that is graffiti removal, not a hate crime.
Now if a white supremacist paints over rainbow crosswalks that the city put there, that's property damage, but a hate crime needs to cause damage to someone, it's not just a thought in someone's head.
This is what's wrong with you progressives, you want to control people's thoughts, you call any opposition to your agenda racism, it's not.
When someone physically assaults another person, having set out with the intention to do so based on racial hate, that's a hate crime.
But when someone wins a spontaneous fistfight against a person of a different race, say over a disagreement, that's not a hate crime, even if the person has expressed hate in the past.
Do you understand the difference?
People have the right to hate if they want too, people have the right to say offensive things ( not credible threats of violence ) having expressed hate and committing a crime doesn't make it a hate crime unless the INTENT was to commit the crime based on racial hate, it's a matter of intent, just like murder can be accidental, heat of the moment or pre-meditated.
Here's an example of how you liberals get it wrong, say a person expresses support for deporting illegal immigrants at a town hall meeting and later that person gets into a shoving match with an illegal immigrant over a shopping cart at the grocery, that is not a hate crime just because one person expressed an opinion, but you liberals would like to control people by labeling them and punishing free thought that you don't like, this is another reason why you lost the last election.
Suppose the person speaks a racial epitaph during the shoving match, is that not free speech? You think that makes a mutual shoving match ( spur of the moment ) a hate crime? If you do then you are wrong. Because you liberals want to punish thoughts and speech that you don't like, that is unconstitutional.
People should let go of racism because they learn for themselves that it's wrong, because people have empathy, and most people just want to get along.
But you progressive wokes want to control people and force your agenda, that's why you lost the last election.
Illegal immigration is..... ILLEGAL
Wanting to see our laws enforced is NOT racism.
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Hate Crime: At the federal level, a crime motivated by bias against race, color, religion, national origin, sexual orientation, gender, gender identity, or disability.Bias or Hate Incident: Acts of prejudice that are not crimes and do not involve violence, threats, or property damage.
Learn About Hate Crimes
A hate crime is a crime motivated by bias against race, color, religion, national origin, sexual orientation, gender, gender identity or disability. Learn more about hate crimes in the United States.
So paul, burning a flag is not a hate crime even though it feels like it to an onlooker, but it could be: creating a public disturbance.
So yes, Trumps flag burning EO is wrong, I expect the court will say so, they already have 5/4 in the past.
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Federal District Court judge, Thomas T Cullen, dismissed all charges against all 15 Maryland judges today that Trump's DOJ filed.
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I never said burning a flag was a hate crime. The killing of gay people in Orlando was.
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The Justice Department has appealed Cullen’s ruling to the 4th US Circuit of Appeals, which is based in Richmond, Virginia.