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FrozenGate by Avery

Named and SHAMED - Massive info thread.

This lad is obviously to immature and young to have the brains to just pay you what you are owed, I would just get in contact with the parents or guardians and sort it out from there. If that fails then go with the original idea.

"Debt collectors"

I wish you all the best.
 





Not that much. To be honest it was not intentional. I offered him a new 5mW but I don't think I would be able to pay off $100. Also: I don't respond well to threats so I sometimes say dumb things.

Do you care that you have just scammed someone? Did you think about selling the meter you used,etc to pay back you "debts"?
 
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I would just get in contact with the parents or guardians and sort it out from there.

Agreed, try and get a phone number you can ring them on, or if not send them a letter which your contact details, explaining the situation and ask them to ring you to sort it out.
 
Ok, If I can sell my power meter, then I'll pay you. Otherwise I can't do anything about it.
I also want the broken laser back as soon as I can give you the funds.
 
I'm not paying for it because I don't believe that the laser was worth that much.

As soon as you saw that it was beyond your experience and/or ability, you should have sent it back or to someone more experienced. Yes, we can learn by doing, BUT we learn on OUR OWN equipment, NOT with equipment that belongs to someone else.

You didn't break a 5mW Newwish. You broke a Dragon Lasers Viper 80 that needed its lens cleaned. The man is being VERY reasonable in accepting $100 for the damage you did. Someone else may have been able to fix it. Now it is trash. It wasn't trash when you got it. I needed cleaned up. YOU trashed it.

I don't care how broke you are. Sell some stuff. Get a job. Make payments. YOU broke it. YOU replace it.

You played. You lost. You pay.

Peace,
dave
 
As soon as you saw that it was beyond your experience and/or ability, you should have sent it back or to someone more experienced. Yes, we can learn by doing, BUT we learn on OUR OWN equipment, NOT with equipment that belongs to someone else.

You didn't break a 5mW Newwish. You broke a Dragon Lasers Viper 80 that needed its lens cleaned. The man is being VERY reasonable in accepting $100 for the damage you did. Someone else may have been able to fix it. Now it is trash. It wasn't trash when you got it. I needed cleaned up. YOU trashed it.

I don't care how broke you are. Sell some stuff. Get a job. Make payments. YOU broke it. YOU replace it.

You played. You lost. You pay.

Peace,
dave

The thing is that the dragon lasers viper 80 was broken already when it arrived to me. I took the module out and put it back in, and some things didn't work after that. IF I can get it sold then I can pay. Otherwise I'm going to have to be booted out of here.
Also when I got it, it was trash. The lens was obviously not the problem.
 
@potatorage.....

You received a functioning (power to be disputted) laser pointer with a dirty lens in
a non-scratched host.... (to have the lens cleaned).

You sent back a NON-Functioning (No Output) laser pointer with a dirty lens in a
damaged and Scratched host... with missing parts.

This damage was caused by you (you already admitted to that).....
Get a Job...
Borrow the money....
Sell some stuff...

Suck it up.... You are responsible for the Damage you caused by
your inexperience...you will need to make it right....

He is letting you off easy... I don't think I would be that generous...

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Even if it was only putting out 5mW as you claim... IT WAS WORKING
when you received it..
What you sent back DOES NOT WORK... by your doing...


Jerry
 
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@potatorage.....

You received a functioning (power to be disputted) laser pointer with a dirty lens in
a non-scratched host.... (to have the lens cleaned).

You sent back a NON-Functioning (No Output) laser pointer with a dirty lens in a
damaged and Scratched host... with missing parts.

This damage was caused by you (you already admitted to that).....
Get a Job...
Borrow the money....
Sell some stuff...

Suck it up.... You are responsible for the Damage you caused by
your inexperience...you will need to make it right....

He is letting you off easy... I don't think I would be that generous...

[EDIT]

Even if it was only putting out 5mW as you claim... IT WAS WORKING
when you received it..
What you sent back DOES NOT WORK... by your doing...


Jerry
SO if I send another working 5mW laser, everything is good?
 
SO if I send another working 5mW laser, everything is good?

No, If you send a CNI 80mW laser that is outputing 5mW, then it's okay. Regardless of what the laser was outputting, it was able to output 80mW at one time; your butchery has basically rendered it unusable. If you had not butchered it, there is a good chance it could still be repaired to put out 80mW...
 
Viper 125 :P :P.

Ill keep an eye out for a LPM sale thread potatorage, ill give you the remaining 6 days to sell it :) If it doesnt go well off the bat, you may have to lower the sale price to reach your debt.

Once the payment is received, ill send the laser back to you. I have no problem doing that.
Its a shame it had to come to this to be honest.

John
 
I can give you a broken CNI laser, I remember that it was a 175mW laser. You can have it repaired by whoever you want.
 
SO if I send another working 5mW laser, everything is good?

If you send a DragonLasers Viper 80 with a dirty lens that is putting out 5mW maybe. However, just sending some random 5mW laser is not. You owe a laser in the same condition it was BEFORE you "worked" on it. The laser you received had the potential to be repaired. A random 5mW laser does not.

You didn't break a Newwish 5mW pointer. You broke a DragonLasers Viper 80. What it was "putting out" is irrelevant.

What kind of LPM is it? Will he accept it as trade for the laser? If he doesn't want an LPM, maybe I will buy it, send the cash to Romeo, and list it for sale. You appear to be trying to set up another delaying tactic by requiring that you have to sell the LPM first.

Peace,
dave
 
I can give you a broken CNI laser, I remember that it was a 175mW laser. You can have it repaired by whoever you want.

Dude, would it not be easier to sell your argon, LPM, anything else of value to pay up? Besides, how are you sure that the laser pen use to put out 175mW? Do you have a serial number or documentation to prove the broken laser was 175mW? What if the laser is so messed up that it's unrepairable? You gotta consider all these factors before blindly offering random stuff to satisfy your debt...
 
I'm deciding whether to go into hiding or pay up. What could possibly go wrong if I just disappear foreveR?

I'll tell people where to find your phone number, address, etc and people will talk to your parents... How's that for a start?
 
OK, I'll will pay the amount of an 5mW broken 80mW laser, however much that is worth.
Before I can pay, I need to have proof that you actually sent me a 80mW Viper. That picture could be from any old black and gold laser, I need to know that you actually own a 80mW viper. Thanks!
 
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