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Zelensky said " You have an ocean between you, but it will come to you. " That was a threat and Trump doesn't respond kindly to threats, Trump was right to stand up for America.
Thank God we have a real President again, not a frail old puppet.

paul..... Is everything you say about Trump going to be BS propaganda or do you think someday you might try something new and actually tell the truth ?

p.s. Proud of JD Vance too, stand up guy right there.
 
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paul1598419 said:
What most people saw was JD Vance, who has always said he doesn't care what happens to Ukraine, start a fight with Zelenskyy. I guess if you're a Trump fan, like Lindsey Graham is, you saw it as Zelenskyy being disrespectful.
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I'm not a trump fan but he does get things done. Zelensky has to understand that he is in no position to complain about anything. He should be ready for any deal to stop the bloodshed. Putin is a horrible person but who wants to go to war with russia?
 
The war in Ukraine would never end if Trump doesn't broker a deal, or if we enabled Ukraine to pose a real threat to Russian life, then Putin would go nuclear, either way doing what the deep state wanted ( forcing Putin out ) is NOT going to happen, Putin is too dam hard, he won't crumble, but he would go nuclear if we really enabled Ukraine to pose a threat to Russian cities, so there are only 3 outcomes.

#1 Make a deal.
#2 War forever with America paying for it and the constant needs of Ukraine.
#3 Nuclear war ending with Ukraine destroyed and God knows what else..... possible WWIII.

I say make a deal, end the war, save our borrowed money, because the US is running in debt and over budget and we save lives too, we must end the war.

The deep state dems wanted regime change in Russia and it has cost hundreds of Billions of dollars and way too many lives...... we are not war criminals, but the deep state dems and their globalist supporters are war criminals, they have blood on their hands, Trump needs to drag them out into the sunlight and lock them away.
 
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RedCowboy said:
Zelensky said " You have an ocean between you, but it will come to you. " That was a threat and Trump doesn't respond kindly to threats, Trump was right to stand up for America.
Thank God we have a real President again, not a frail old puppet.

paul..... Is everything you say about Trump going to be BS propaganda or do you think someday you might try something new and actually tell the truth ?

p.s. Proud of JD Vance too, stand up guy right there.
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Trump said he and "Putin had been through a lot together." He still claims that Russia did nothing wrong and Zelensky is to bl.ame for this war. There are many Republicans who don't bvelieve that for a second. Vance did pick a fight with Zelensky.
 
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The war in Ukraine would never end if Trump doesn't broker a deal, or if we enabled Ukraine to pose a real threat to Russian life, then Putin would go nuclear, either way doing what the deep state wanted ( forcing Putin out ) is NOT going to happen, Putin is too dam hard, he won't crumble, but he would go nuclear if we really enabled Ukraine to pose a threat to Russian cities, so there are only 3 outcomes.

#1 Make a deal.
#2 War forever with America paying for it and the constant needs of Ukraine.
#3 Nuclear war ending with Ukraine destroyed and God knows what else..... possible WWIII.

I say make a deal, end the war, save our borrowed money, because the US is running in debt and over budget and we save lives too, we must end the war.

The deep state dems wanted regime change in Russia and it has cost hundreds of Billions of dollars and way too many lives...... we are not war criminals, but the deep state dems and their globalist supporters are war criminals, they have blood on their hands, Trump needs to drag them out into the sunlight and lock them away.
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JESUS! You still don't get the reason they call it Mutual Assured Destruction. There is no nuclear war coming. If there were, Russia would be destroyed as well.
 
As near as I can tell, only MAGAts are praising Trump for this disaster. Never in our 250 year history has a president taken the side of a dictator. In the Quinnipiac poll, just last week, more than four in five Americans believe Putin is a dictator and invaded Ukraine. It seems very simpleminded for Trump to take Putin's side in this.
 
I said IF we were to give Ukraine the ability to threaten Russian cities that Putin would go nuclear before he ever resigns.

Mutually assured destruction be damned, Putin would nuke Ukraine if we gave Ukraine the ability/weapons to destroy Russian cities and they put it to use...... where war could escalate from there you can't say, nobody can with any certainty.

Putin is defending his country, can you imagine if Russia was supporting Mexico in attacking the US, Putin only wanted Ukraine to stay out of NATO, but our deep state wanted Putin out and somebody they could control in.

Your deep state criminals will be held accountable, Epstein was running not only a sex den but a blackmail operation with help from the FBI/CIA, Trump will see the deep state criminals who sought to control all 3 branches of government and ultimately the world HELD ACCOUNTABLE !
 
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RedCowboy said:
I said IF we were to give Ukraine the ability to threaten Russian cities that Putin would go nuclear before he ever resigns.

Mutually assured destruction be damned, Putin would nuke Ukraine if we gave Ukraine the ability/weapons to destroy Russian cities and they put it to use...... where war could escalate from there you can't say, nobody can with any certainty.

Putin is defending his country, can you imagine if Russia was supporting Mexico in attacking the US, Putin only wanted Ukraine to stay out of NATO, but our deep state wanted Putin out and somebody they could control in.

Your deep state criminals will be held accountable, Epstein was running not only a sex den but a blackmail operation with help from the FBI/CIA, Trump will see the deep state criminals who sought to control all 3 branches of government and ultimately the world HELD ACCOUNTABLE !
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SHIT! :LOL: Putin is the agressor in this. He has ALWAYS been an aggrerssor. The narative that Ukraine is tne bad guy here is a Russian narative...and Trump plays into that at every opportunity.

OMFG! You want to know about Epstein just read the transcript from his trial.
 
Yes Putin should be stopped but what would that require? War. Putin will not pull back and no one wants to fight him because it would end in nuclear destruction.
 
If you believe Puin will go to war with the U.S. you haven't been paying attention. Putin hasn't even been able to take Ukraine. He lost far more solldiers than Zelenskyy ever has. The Russian economy is in shambles.

Also, since taking office, Trump has done nothing for Ukraine.
 
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I believe nothing you say paul, because you regurgitate the leftist false narrative....... but when your policy is garbage, I suppose lies are all you have.
 
paul1598419 said:
If you believe Puin will go to war with the U.S. you haven't been paying attention. Putin hasn't even been able to take Ukraine. He lost far more solldiers than Zelenskyy ever has. The Russian economy is in shambles.

Also, since taking office, Trump has done nothing for Ukraine.
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Smarten up Paul! What do you think a nuclear capable country will do if they are backed into a corner? They set off their nuclear arsenal! They rather do that than surrender. It's just reality. If the US really got into the war it will end in mutual nuclear destruction.
 
The Trump/Vance Clown Show was on full display today. Trump wanted Zelenskyy to thank him again, though Trump has done nothing for Ukraine since Trump took office., and all Zelernshyy wanted was assurtances that Putin wouldn't do what Putin has done everytime. Disgraceful!
 
Paul you cant just twist things around. I get that many hate trump but that hatred causes blindness and maybe no fault of their own they interpret things differently. Alot of the things people say bad about trump I dont see at all. Blind hatred does that. Trump did go off the rails today but seems everyone in that room who spoke had animosity built up. Zelensky didnt do a good job either.
 
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