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Default RIP DL 5mW 594nm

http://www.dragonlasers.com/catalog/...p-1-c-267.html

Was just browsing their site and notice their 2mW and 5mW yellow/orange pointer (594nm) are now gone. They've replaced it with a 1mW - 3mW (2mW - 10mW on the specifications) pointer priced at $350. I'm wondering what it is they've actually done with the product, is it possible they've just took the 5mW unit and gave it a lower power rating because of the inconcistancies the power output has? I had a feeling the product would change slightly when they went out of stock, I was thinking of getting one of the 5mW ones as well.


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Probably had to many RMA's now more generalized so the customers will better know what to expect.
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> Clearly they are using the peak output value, NOT average.
You misspelled imaginary there.

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Default Re: RIP DL 5mW 594nm

Well, you can't necessarily say it's the company. The orange/yellow/amber lasers are already unstable as a one year old baby with one leg. And the dragon lasers staff probably speak less English than one.
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Default Re: RIP DL 5mW 594nm

I would concider the fact that they might not have edited the info on the specifications strip before passing judgement on it's advertised power.
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You could always try sending them an email and asking them about it.
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Default Re: RIP DL 5mW 594nm

The whole 5mW 593.5nm thing was BS from the start - consistent with the fradulent business practices of Dragon Lasers. As I recall, sawt's was putting out far less than 5mW. The insane instability is understable with a 593.5nm unit (it makes the 473nm DPSS process look simple), but 5mW? CNI only ever made a 0.5-2mW unit as far as I know. Knowing DL, I bet that's what you're getting when you order their higher power units anyway. Sorry for the tirade and pessimism, but I can't pretend DL hasn't done more than enough to deserve it.
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The whole 5mW 593.5nm thing was BS from the start - consistent with the fradulent business practices of Dragon Lasers. As I recall, sawt's was putting out far less than 5mW. The insane instability is understable with a 593.5nm unit (it makes the 473nm DPSS process look simple), but 5mW? CNI only ever made a 0.5-2mW unit as far as I know. Knowing DL, I bet that's what you're getting when you order their higher power units anyway. Sorry for the tirade and pessimism, but I can't pretend DL hasn't done more than enough to deserve it.
Out of interest, why do you hate DL so much?
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[quote author=pseudonomen137 link=1212761062/0#8 date=1212803083]The whole 5mW 593.5nm thing was BS from the start - consistent with the fradulent business practices of Dragon Lasers. As I recall, sawt's was putting out far less than 5mW. The insane instability is understable with a 593.5nm unit (it makes the 473nm DPSS process look simple), but 5mW? CNI only ever made a 0.5-2mW unit as far as I know. Knowing DL, I bet that's what you're getting when you order their higher power units anyway. Sorry for the tirade and pessimism, but I can't pretend DL hasn't done more than enough to deserve it.
Out of interest, why do you hate DL so much?[/quote]
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http://www.laserpointerforums.com/fo...m=1189186835/0
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Default Re: RIP DL 5mW 594nm

It's not as if they've been as bad as most companies. I mean, not long ago I got a laser which was just found to me more than 60mW over spec...
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yes, 594nm portable lasers are all extremely unstable at least power vise. Some even can't retain yellow color.

here is an offer for a 20mW PGL yellow unit. You can be assured its a complete BS and that you won't get anywhere close to 20mW.
http://www.amazing1.com/laser_pointers.htm

CNI will custom make up to 40mW PGL style but they won't guarantee stability, and they will charge you like 2-3K.

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Just a little info on the new pointer, I asked DL and they said the pen has been rediesigned to these specifications (1mW - 3mW) and the old models wont be coming back. They also said:

"High powered orange laser in Spartan case is coming soon."

Oh yes! Sounds interesting, I really hope they can do something good with it. The better heat sink should help a lot compared to the pen, but I'm not sure exactly how high pwered they can go. I certainly wouldn't expect more than 5mW - 8mW.

But yeah, I did want one of the pens as the Vega is stupidly (but rightly) expensive. However I think holding out and seeing what this new Spartan might bring would be a good idea. I think it's guarenteed I'll be looking at at least $700 - $800, but being in the Spartan host would be so much better. Maybe not as stable as a batton host, but certainly more stable than a CNI pen.
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Oh well..
I was wanting to get the DL 5mw 593.5nm, but it looks like I'll get the Aurora BP instead. ($50 reduction!!)
I don't think anything else was changed, though.
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The product has changed again... If anyone bought the 1mW - 3mW they're lucky...

http://www.dragonlasers.com/catalog/...p-1-c-267.html
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The product has changed again... If anyone bought the 1mW - 3mW they're lucky...

http://www.dragonlasers.com/catalog/...p-1-c-267.html
I was going to post that, but w/e..
Dang, how come prices of yellow lasers keep on going up, while every other laser is going down!
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