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Hi DDL,
I do feel for the guy and see your point of view, but then I think about people buying these and not getting what they pay for and I even feel more sorry for them.
Pseudo may be being a bit harsh, but he's right.
Warnlaser had posted that they belonged to a laser business organization (don't remember the name of hand...I'm embarrassed) and when you look closely at the image they posted it was an expired membership from a different company. I know there were other things as well, I just don't recall them (but Pseudo does).
What angers me is that these places sell this junk which quickly turns off the buyer do to low output and low quality, this in turn prevent the buyer from becoming more involved in the hobby....It's just plain bad for hobby to have this junk out on the market.
What I'm saying is not just directed at warnlaser, but all the low end lasers being sold on ebay and other new sites popping up all the time.
All these places are interested in is making their money and when the money drys up from that, they move on to the next hot product to capitalize on. If they were really honest, they would take some time to learn about lasers and the qualty of the products they sell. These places treat them as if they were cheap watches, with nothing more to needed to know about them.
There's nothing wrong with making money, that's what I try to do as well; but its a little different. I do it honestly and provide exatly what I say I will. The sad thing is that it's alot more profitable and easy to go the dishonest route than to put a large amount of effort into building an honest company and loyal customer base.
It is different from selling $5 rolex watches or even $300 rolexs on ebay. With the watches most buyer will know what they are getting, but with lasers its not the same at all. Sure you and me might know right off that these are junk, but most think they are getting a high quality performance laser just as good as one that 3x as much money could have been spent on. They think they got a real bargain, afterall to them milliwatts is all they look at and they believe what they see printed on these websites and have no way of testing the product to call them on it.
In effect, it makes the laser pointer market a prime place for scammers since most buyers have no way of really proving what they got. Then since most of these places are in China or the far east, it makes it more difficult for the buyer to get their money back or if they do return their laser, it is at their cost and those costs can add up to a fair amount, so most just take the loss and forget about lasers altogether.
Jack
I do feel for the guy and see your point of view, but then I think about people buying these and not getting what they pay for and I even feel more sorry for them.
Pseudo may be being a bit harsh, but he's right.
Warnlaser had posted that they belonged to a laser business organization (don't remember the name of hand...I'm embarrassed) and when you look closely at the image they posted it was an expired membership from a different company. I know there were other things as well, I just don't recall them (but Pseudo does).
What angers me is that these places sell this junk which quickly turns off the buyer do to low output and low quality, this in turn prevent the buyer from becoming more involved in the hobby....It's just plain bad for hobby to have this junk out on the market.
What I'm saying is not just directed at warnlaser, but all the low end lasers being sold on ebay and other new sites popping up all the time.
All these places are interested in is making their money and when the money drys up from that, they move on to the next hot product to capitalize on. If they were really honest, they would take some time to learn about lasers and the qualty of the products they sell. These places treat them as if they were cheap watches, with nothing more to needed to know about them.
There's nothing wrong with making money, that's what I try to do as well; but its a little different. I do it honestly and provide exatly what I say I will. The sad thing is that it's alot more profitable and easy to go the dishonest route than to put a large amount of effort into building an honest company and loyal customer base.
It is different from selling $5 rolex watches or even $300 rolexs on ebay. With the watches most buyer will know what they are getting, but with lasers its not the same at all. Sure you and me might know right off that these are junk, but most think they are getting a high quality performance laser just as good as one that 3x as much money could have been spent on. They think they got a real bargain, afterall to them milliwatts is all they look at and they believe what they see printed on these websites and have no way of testing the product to call them on it.
In effect, it makes the laser pointer market a prime place for scammers since most buyers have no way of really proving what they got. Then since most of these places are in China or the far east, it makes it more difficult for the buyer to get their money back or if they do return their laser, it is at their cost and those costs can add up to a fair amount, so most just take the loss and forget about lasers altogether.
Jack
I know this member has no experience with these lasers in question and is judging as he's never tested or owned one yet. 
