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Trashed thread- Hopefully the last flame war

Re: FS- >130mW "Beasty" Blu-Ray

Glaserfan said:
Read back, Senkat, I edited that post long ago. I simply will not sit back and take your harassment, especially when you are trying to ruin my sale. If you had stayed out of this thread, I'd have left you alone, such as I was doing since I have been back.


Here are your emails, dipshit.
{This is all WAY too long for me to edit out all his horrid language - so the forum's editors will most likely catch all his "mature" words - and change them to, "the"}

Hello:)

Please take the time to read this whole letter.....

My name is Heath Lawrence, AKA "Glaserfan" at LPF. I am 34 years old, and a hell of alot more mature than at least half of the members of LPF(yourself not included). I am the undeserving receiver of the 2-week ban, for supposedly starting that thread which I did NOT.

Now before you start having thoughts of "Bullshit he's lying", hear me out please.

I found out over a month ago not to jump into things, or raise too much of a ruccus on LPF, You may remember me defending Jake21(to a point), when he copied Milos' laser design, and auction. I caught a lot of flak for that. Also, the whole time I was posting in that thread, I was talking to Jake on yahoo messenger and telling him to rethink his actions. I actually had a large part of getting that problem settled.

But, on to what cOld says are my beefs with you..and his "evidence" for banning me. I have NO beef with you major enough to ever start shit like that thread. Also, I do seem to have the balls to come forward to say, as the accused anyway since that is all I myself am,"Here I am". I can't do this in the forum because cOld baned me for two weeks. Anyway, now there have been times that I disagreed with your actions.. well, you know of them, because I have put one vague statement or the other in the threads.. BUT, did I ever do anything about it, NO.. Did I speak with forum members in PM about it, yea well I did. And as I tried to say in the "cleaned up" AMK GB thread, I did have a time where someone harassed my daughter on the net, not sexually, just namecalling and swearing, and the Cops DID find the person and penalize them for it.. In that thread I mentioned this to you, actually trying to save you any grief in the case that something like that may happen. I got a few PM's about that post. You wan honesty, you are getting it.. MY part anyhow. I am not used to a forum like LPF. I am a member of many different frums, and LPF is the ONLY one that tolerates the things that members say in there.. That takes a bit of getting used to......

My real opinion of you is that I see you as a respected member, and you have actually helped me with advice in the past. Although I wish you wouldnt blast off. BUT, that's your choice, not mine.

And again, does any of this mean i am stupid enough to create a new name, and fore up shit like that, definitely NOT.

Anyhow, cOld seems to have made his "judgement" against me based on all this.

Now, on to the REAL truth. I do have a friend, named Dan Sikes, that comes to my house(well, used to but not since a few days ago when I chewed his ass up down and backwards for doing such a stupid thing especialy from my computer), and has spent many hours reading the info on LPF with me. He is the type of person who LOVES to argue, trust me. He also does NOT have an internet connection from his home, which seems probably to be a good thing. He has spent alot of time trolling the forum, but never posting on my name. He has also griped and complained many a time about you and many other members bitching at each other on the forum.

So, the other day, he asked to stay at my house insted of riding downtown to the store with my GF and I, or just going home, saying he waqnted to use the computer. Now he has never given me a reason not to trust him--until that day. I left the house, computer on, yahoo signed in, and all my passwords, save eBay and PayPAl, automatically stored in my computer. This includes the fact that all he had to do was click this email box, my other forum links, and my LPF link, and my name signs in automatically(Even if i log off the computer still saves the password and as soon as I click the link, it logs me in again). I cam back, and there he is at my computer, looking at that thread. I said that whoever the new terminatorz guy was, he had some serious stupid balls. He lauged, and said "Stupid? HaHa I did it". He also lauged and said " I even clicked on your name ond put a vote in for you!", and then went on to BS about pretending to be a respected member....Lets just say an argument ensued, a BIG one. He left, and hasn't spoken to me since.

You see, there are quite a few BIG reasons I would never do that. For one, all cOld would have had to do is look up the IP on that post, and match it up to my actual ID, the probably ban me for life. Two, I have transactions going on on LPF. I had a laser for sale(now sold, and no way to contact the buyer thru LPF- which looks BAD for me), I am part of AMK's and Airy's Group buys, and now can't contact them. I also have more lasers to sell, and eBay is NO place to do this.. my best bet was LPF. As a businessman in the laser hobby, I am sure you know that you have to make something on your investment, and enjoy providing a good product to your customers, just like me. A 2 week ban is going to put an HELL of a damper on my $400+ investment..... In short it sucks to be me right now, and I myself didn't even deserve it. This is why I pm'ed cOld, but all that got me was banned, and flamed hard as a "liar" in the thread by everyone. If ther's one thing i am NOT.. it's a liar.

So here I am and theres my story, the raw truth. Now that I have told you theis truth, I ask a favor of you... Please think this over, and contact cOld, or even start a thread in the forum, hell even post this letter in it if you'd like. I have NO way to contact cOld without my membership, as he has no links to contact him on the site. I need my name back ASAP, and am hoping by writing this to you I can set this straight. I dont think you can ask for a more "stand up" way of doing so that I have done here.

Thank you for your time, and reading this novel I have written. Again, please think this over.

Best regards,
Heath Lawrence(aka glaserfan)

but WAIT....there's MORE ! I'll simply post the last one in the conversation, all you have to do is read it from the bottom up, and you will see my replies, too ;)

Oh and by the way, my name is not Joe. I think you have me confused with someone else.

You really need to get a life before the life your attitude catches up to you and you get squashed. I know I am not the only one you have victimized in that forum, and I bet many other forums. One day you'll get your dues and not be able to hide behind your curtain of "Mr. Helpful".


On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 1:05 AM, superlark <superlark@gmail.com> wrote:

Thinking about it? LOL I DIDNT DO IT.

You sink WAYY past my level all the time on that forum.

You can "not respond" to my threats all you want. They are not threats LOL..I am just protecting the children in the forum from your illegal actions. I am surprised cOld doesn't ban you since you violate his rules all the time.



On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 12:55 AM, Greg Stoner <stonergl@gmail.com> wrote:

I will not sink to your level, or respond to your threats. I hope you enjoy thinking about this for a long time…equal to the amount of time you will spend off the forum. You are showing your true colors, Joe.




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From: superlark [mailto:superlark@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:52 PM


To: Greg Stoner
Subject: Re: The "Big Brother" thread on LPF



The only thing I threatened is to report you for abusing minors on the internet, which WILL result in you losing all internet privileges, therefore rendering you unable to run your online shop. Only other thing I did was to treat you the way you treated me and others in the forum, but again it seems like you can't stand it. Don't dish what you can't take.

You also might want to take me seriously.... I know a certain someone that doesn't even dare log into the internet, or he goes to jail. Why, because he harassed my daughter, just as I have seen you harass the minors in the forum.. you really might want to take heed to my words. I may not be able to post, but I can still read, and am watching what you do to the others in there, I will be going thru and saving EVERY nasty post you have in that forum. Oh, and once I can post again in a week and a half, don't bother calling me out or trying to argue with me, and don't even think of ruining one of my threads with your bullshit, or I will act on it. I won't argue with you in the forum, only ask you to leave me alone. BUT, I WILL take the info I have to the authorities, and you will feel the consequences of your actions.

I originally wrote to you, man to man, to explain what REALLY happened, in hopes that you'd understand, and maybe be a stand up guy and pass the info along, since I cannot. But being a stand up guy does not seem to be in your vocabulary.

On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 11:30 PM, Greg Stoner <stonergl@gmail.com> wrote:

What do your little pocket pals…I mean law enforcement officials say about you threatening me via email ? J




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From: superlark [mailto:superlark@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:21 PM


To: Greg Stoner
Subject: Re: The "Big Brother" thread on LPF



Harassment, how about libel.. bring it on little boy. This will be my last email to you,

But let me say this before I go..

YOU ARE A WORTHLESS PIECE OF SHIT. You call everyone out and tell them to grow some balls and bring it on, but you cannot take what you dish.. maybe if you had some hair on your nuts you'd be able to.

Nitey nite Mr. Baby, whould you like a bottle?

Harassment.. LOL.. try shutting the fuck up once in a while and you won't have this problem.. and just a hint, keep off the kids in the forum.. I am watching you, and so are a few law enforcement officials now that you pissed me off(I have connections pal).

I am shutting the fuck up now,

WATCH YOUR ASS



On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 11:10 PM, superlark <superlark@gmail.com> wrote:

Keep em coming LOL

At 34, I think I am a whole lot mature mature than you. At least I don't have to harass everyone on the forum and call names to get my rocks off. I have Girlfriend for that. Must be your wife don't give you enough LOL. I should stop wasting my time writing to you, as the world is better off without jackasses such as yourself. By the way, I also have a couple physical ailments, but they don't case me to treeat others like shit because I feel like it.

"Well respected"... more like Has-Been.. I DID have respect for you, and wrote you to tell you so, but it seems like it wasn't respect you deserve from me.

Sitting one step higher on the food chain than you,
Me



On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 10:57 PM, Greg Stoner <stonergl@gmail.com> wrote:

Loser.




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From: superlark [mailto:superlark@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 9:06 PM
To: Greg Stoner
Subject: Re: The "Big Brother" thread on LPF



And why, what do you have to lose? LOL

What did I ever REALLY do to you? Go ahead and call me a liar, and I'll call you out on that so hard your eyes will spin. Libel is a serious offense, especially when its there for the world to see. The things you have said about "Me"- when it isn't, are enough to bury your ass so deep in shit you won't be able to breathe. I REALLY HATE BEING FUCKING BLAMED FOR SHIT I DIDNT DO. Oh, and not to mention harassing minors.... can you say off the internet for you and bye bye stonetek? Go ahead, piss me off some more.

You say you are such a stand up guy, and I send you the truth of what really happened, and all you can say is "NO".. lol you are really one hell of a piece of work.

What the fuck ever, may you rot in hell where you came from.. NOW I really DO have a beef with you, you old fart ass whiner. How ya like your own kind of treatment, Asswipe?

Fuck off,
Heath L.

PS there aint shit you can do to me as far as the forum this time, CUZ I AINT FUCKIN ON IT LOL.

On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 6:35 PM, Greg Stoner <stonergl@gmail.com> wrote:

No.




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From: superlark [mailto:superlark@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 4:05 PM
To: sales@stonetek.org
Subject: The "Big Brother" thread on LPF



Hello:)

Please take the time to read this whole letter.....

My name is Heath Lawrence, AKA "Glaserfan" at LPF. I am 34 years old, and a hell of alot more mature than at least half of the members of LPF(yourself not included). I am the undeserving receiver of the 2-week ban, for supposedly starting that thread which I did NOT.

Now before you start having thoughts of "Bullshit he's lying", hear me out please.

I found out over a month ago not to jump into things, or raise too much of a ruccus on LPF, You may remember me defending Jake21(to a point), when he copied Milos' laser design, and auction. I caught a lot of flak for that. Also, the whole time I was posting in that thread, I was talking to Jake on yahoo messenger and telling him to rethink his actions. I actually had a large part of getting that problem settled.

But, on to what cOld says are my beefs with you..and his "evidence" for banning me. I have NO beef with you major enough to ever start shit like that thread. Also, I do seem to have the balls to come forward to say, as the accused anyway since that is all I myself am,"Here I am". I can't do this in the forum because cOld baned me for two weeks. Anyway, now there have been times that I disagreed with your actions.. well, you know of them, because I have put one vague statement or the other in the threads.. BUT, did I ever do anything about it, NO.. Did I speak with forum members in PM about it, yea well I did. And as I tried to say in the "cleaned up" AMK GB thread, I did have a time where someone harassed my daughter on the net, not sexually, just namecalling and swearing, and the Cops DID find the person and penalize them for it.. In that thread I mentioned this to you, actually trying to save you any grief in the case that something like that may happen. I got a few PM's about that post. You wan honesty, you are getting it.. MY part anyhow. I am not used to a forum like LPF. I am a member of many different frums, and LPF is the ONLY one that tolerates the things that members say in there.. That takes a bit of getting used to......

My real opinion of you is that I see you as a respected member, and you have actually helped me with advice in the past. Although I wish you wouldnt blast off. BUT, that's your choice, not mine.

And again, does any of this mean i am stupid enough to create a new name, and fore up shit like that, definitely NOT.

Anyhow, cOld seems to have made his "judgement" against me based on all this.

Now, on to the REAL truth. I do have a friend, named Dan Sikes, that comes to my house(well, used to but not since a few days ago when I chewed his ass up down and backwards for doing such a stupid thing especialy from my computer), and has spent many hours reading the info on LPF with me. He is the type of person who LOVES to argue, trust me. He also does NOT have an internet connection from his home, which seems probably to be a good thing. He has spent alot of time trolling the forum, but never posting on my name. He has also griped and complained many a time about you and many other members bitching at each other on the forum.

So, the other day, he asked to stay at my house insted of riding downtown to the store with my GF and I, or just going home, saying he waqnted to use the computer. Now he has never given me a reason not to trust him--until that day. I left the house, computer on, yahoo signed in, and all my passwords, save eBay and PayPAl, automatically stored in my computer. This includes the fact that all he had to do was click this email box, my other forum links, and my LPF link, and my name signs in automatically(Even if i log off the computer still saves the password and as soon as I click the link, it logs me in again). I cam back, and there he is at my computer, looking at that thread. I said that whoever the new terminatorz guy was, he had some serious stupid balls. He lauged, and said "Stupid? HaHa I did it". He also lauged and said " I even clicked on your name ond put a vote in for you!", and then went on to BS about pretending to be a respected member....Lets just say an argument ensued, a BIG one. He left, and hasn't spoken to me since.

You see, there are quite a few BIG reasons I would never do that. For one, all cOld would have had to do is look up the IP on that post, and match it up to my actual ID, the probably ban me for life. Two, I have transactions going on on LPF. I had a laser for sale(now sold, and no way to contact the buyer thru LPF- which looks BAD for me), I am part of AMK's and Airy's Group buys, and now can't contact them. I also have more lasers to sell, and eBay is NO place to do this.. my best bet was LPF. As a businessman in the laser hobby, I am sure you know that you have to make something on your investment, and enjoy providing a good product to your customers, just like me. A 2 week ban is going to put an HELL of a damper on my $400+ investment..... In short it sucks to be me right now, and I myself didn't even deserve it. This is why I pm'ed cOld, but all that got me was banned, and flamed hard as a "liar" in the thread by everyone. If ther's one thing i am NOT.. it's a liar.

So here I am and theres my story, the raw truth. Now that I have told you theis truth, I ask a favor of you... Please think this over, and contact cOld, or even start a thread in the forum, hell even post this letter in it if you'd like. I have NO way to contact cOld without my membership, as he has no links to contact him on the site. I need my name back ASAP, and am hoping by writing this to you I can set this straight. I dont think you can ask for a more "stand up" way of doing so that I have done here.

Thank you for your time, and reading this novel I have written. Again, please think this over.

Best regards,
Heath Lawrence(aka glaserfan)



This is all WAY too long for me to edit out all his horrid language - so the forum's editors will most likely catch all his "mature" words - and change them to, "the"
 





Re: FS- >130mW "Beasty" Blu-Ray

nobodytofuckwith said:
Instead of you hopping into one of my sale threads, why don't you start up a thread specifically for bashing me ? Oh wait....you already DID that, and then didn't have the testicular fortitude (that means, BALLS) to admit to it - making up lies to cover you back - then pleaded with me via email to have c0ldshadow reconsider your temporary ban....sound familiar ? You have nothing original, I own you - so stop making yourself look even more simple. You are embarrassing yourself.



gee to me senkat the way i see it ur the one doing all the bashing not glaserfan for one u dont own him as u put it and if anyones embarrassing themself i would have to say its u cause u jumped in where u dont belong and just started bashing people so like glaserfan said GET OVER URSELF WHEN SOMEONE POINTS U GOD WE WILL LET U KNOW ;D


CLEVER ! use spell check, moron.
 
Re: FS- >130mW "Beasty" Blu-Ray

nobodytofuckwith said:
and no this aint glaserfan under a new name either

And ? I could really care less WHO you are. I know that hurts...just crawl back under that rock and whimper a little bit, you'll feel better.
 
Re: FS- >130mW "Beasty" Blu-Ray

Nice. There still isn't anything that can be done about those emails. That kind of subject matter was meant to be kept off the forum, and was, and so far I have done so. It has no place here, and I knew that, which is why I kept it off here.

YOU, Senkat have brought a private matter into the public forum. I still am not worried about my reputation, even though what I wrote is here for all to see. You pissed me off, and I lashed out, oh well. Get over it. I still could nail you for what you have done, especialy since I am the victim. The San Antonio Police have told me so. But, out of respect for the forum and it's well being, I won't. Someday you'll get your dues for harassing kids.

EDIT: And as far as the colorful language.. Senkat does this constantly on this forum. I simply gave him a taste of his own medicine, and he didnt like it. I did, however, keep it off the forum, since those were written just days into my ban, and since I have been unbanned, have left him alone.. until this thread. But even as much as it rages me that he's trying to ruin my sale and smash my rep here, I have not resorted to the colorful language here in the forum. All of my replies, including this one, are just to try to defend myself and expose Senkat for what he really is.
 
Re: FS- >130mW "Beasty" Blu-Ray

SenKat, I do respect you and you've done a lot for this hobby, but don't randomly lash out at people. This guy might deserve the names you throw at him, but you'd get your point across more effectively if you just took a chill pill and use reason and logic instead of CUSSWORDS IN ALL CAPS... I understand the hate, but calm down a little bro.
 
Re: FS- >130mW "Beasty" Blu-Ray

unlike u at least i dont go around bashing people if u dont like what u get dished why do u dish it out? oh wait i guess u are allowed to huh? think again dumb ass and those emails u so kindly posted on here i think u deserved everything u got since u dished it out first the way i see it u need banned off this site and i think if enough people conplained about u i think it just might happen cause u have no right what-so-ever to be bashing people and getting away with it so keep it up
 
Re: FS- >130mW Beasty Blu-Ray(trashed by Senkat)

This thread is embarrassing me. Mostly due to "nobodytofuckwith"

It is embarrassing ME and I havent even participated in it.
 
Re: FS- >130mW Beasty Blu-Ray(trashed by Senkat)

el-taco said:
This thread is embarrassing me. Mostly due to "nobodytofuckwith"

It is embarrassing ME and I havent even participated in it.


the only reason im saying anything is cause he has NO RIGHT bashing people on here if u would read the whole forum u would see he started the bashing of glaserfan im only responding back cause had no right jumping in where he didnt belong read the whole forum and u will see hes the one that started the bashing nobdy else
 
Re: FS- >130mW Beasty Blu-Ray(trashed by Senkat)

Village, I say this with all due respect:). I have done my best to be a helpful, contributing member on this forum. I did gripe at Senkat a bit in the forum long back, then got caught up in one hell of a mess, as stated in my first email that everyone can see. Those emails were the end of it, iuntil now. In fact, I am trying to be mature in every single reply to his onslaught, in an effort to keep my promise to cOldshadow.

I can't blame Senkat for hating me, but that's not a reason for my rep in the forum to take a plunge. There certainly is no room or real reason for him to make any of this public, except for his desire to ruin me.
 
Re: FS- >130mW Beasty Blu-Ray(trashed by Senkat)

I truly hope cOld sees this thread and deletes it. Most of it has no place being here. I have also put a warning in the title about it being trashed. If he deletes it, I will start a new one for this laser, and hopefully Senkat will do the right thing and stay out. If he'd only stop trying to ruin me, I'd shut up. I intended to hopefully sell a laser, not have all this happen. In fact, like I stated, I have not bothered Senkat one bit since I have been un-banned until this thread, no matter how much I despise his ways. There is another post somewhere here in the forum that he typed to lash out at me while I was banned, and I did not even respond to that. I also have tried to keep my cool in here(while defending myself and trying to let the truth be known), since I value my membership, and do not need to lose it once again because of Senkat.

My reason for not detailing my emails to him is that I know they had NO place here, which still holds true. I am not ashamed about those emails, either. I sent the first one hoping Senkat had some of what a real man is made of in him, and found out otherwise the hard way. My reasoning for lashing out.. well, mainly to get dramatic, and put on an ACT like him, to see how he liked it. In reality, I am not that kind of person. My desire to see him fry for harassing kids online, well that holds true. But again, I'll let someone else do it, so that I do not bring more grief to cOldshadow and this awesome site.

Hopefully there are enough members here that can see through Senkat's ruthless efforts, and realize the difference between who is right and wrong. I really would like to continue to be a contributing member here, and possibly break even on this hobby such as so many others do. It is going to be hard for me to do that with Senkat on my back.
 
Re: FS thread(trashed by Senkat)

Title changed, and info on the laser deleted. When this gets sorted out, I'll repost. This thread has been totally destroyed, all because Senkat had to try to ruin my chances of selling a very nice laser to a potentially very happy customer.

Senkat, go ahead and keep trashing me, I don't care. In youe efforts to "Expose" me, I only can hope that at least a few more people see you for what you really are. Anyone who reads the emails you made public, then my explanation, will see what it was all about. They still DO NOT belong on this site, so I hope you are proud of the BS you created. After all, if it weren't for your rotten attitude, NONE of this, along with half of the BS drama on this site would even exist. You really should, in my opinion and it seems the opinion of others here, just keep your personal nasty attitude OFF this forum. LPF as a whole deserves to exist without your attitude.

I am not ashamed, as I have only given you a taste of your own medicine(in private until you exposed it), and did my best to be mature and try to defend myself, while keeping my cool as best I could, in this thread and on this forum.

By the way, you did not win. Once this gets sorted out, I'll repost my laser for sale, and for now will just continue to be a contributing member to the forum.
 
Re: FS- >130mW Beasty Blu-Ray(trashed by Senkat)

nobodytofuckwith said:
[quote author=el-taco link=1218091627/40#55 date=1218255081]This thread is embarrassing me. Mostly due to "nobodytofuckwith"

It is embarrassing ME and I havent even participated in it.


the only reason im saying anything is cause he has NO RIGHT bashing people on here if u would read the whole forum u would see he started the bashing of glaserfan    im only responding back cause had no right jumping in where he didnt belong  read the whole forum and u will see hes the one that started the bashing nobdy else[/quote]

Im 96% sure you are Glaserfan's dupe.
 
Re: FS thread(trashed by Senkat)

SenKat_Stonetek said:
Carter - ignore the stupid focker from now on....

Everyone else - ignore the stupid focker from now on.... SERIOUSLY, don't validate his inflammatory remarks with a reply at all - keep this thread oriented towards what it was designed to be to begin with, not mr focker's ventings....

To the stupid focker - STFU - you don't have the balls to answer anyone's questions, nor to make your identity known, so STFU, focker. ;)


gee senkat i was going thru all the post u made and i ran into that ur good at giving advise but not good at taking ur own advise why is that?
 
Re: FS thread(trashed by Senkat)

for one im a female and as i see glaserfan is a male so therefore i cant be glaserfan can i?
 
Re: FS thread(trashed by Senkat)

Nope. This is definitely not me. I just hope that whoever it is does not get me into more trouble. If it is in fact a member who has an existing ID here, a quick IP check will show so. My name, however has been logged in "for keeps" for quite some time. Again, I value my membership here. Senkat is not worth me losing it for....

I will continue to defend myself in this thread, if I have to. I'd rather not have to. It is bad enough my name has been scarred, and my sale ruined. i am still open to any suggestions via PM.
 


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