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Morepower said:
While I agree with some of what you are saying the problem is that the stated power is not measured the same way by all Laser Companies and this is where you can easily get ripped off.  If you don't own a power meter there is no way to know if you got what you paid for.  SOME Laser Co's are taking advantage of this and are making big dollars selling an 85mW laser as a 125mW laser for example.  If an 85mW laser is selling for say $200 and a 125mW laser is selling for say $500 then a disshonest or uncareing Co. can easily STEAL $300 from an unsuspecting buyer !!!  So as you can see it would be easy to sell a 125mW(stated not actual) power laser for an 85mW price.  The unfortunate thing here is that the visual difference between the two powers is reasonably minimal( it takes 4 x the output power to produce a beam that is twice as bright) which only makes it easier to get away with it.  I personally bought a SUPPOSED 125mW Fusion from WL for $499.00 over 12 months ago, I just recently bought a Lasercheck power meter and with NEW lithium batteries the HIGHEST reading I got was 88mW's !!!  Even I was under the impression it was putting out at least over 100mW, but it seems I was wrong !!  WL swears blind they test these Lasers before they leave the factory.  So did they purposely rip me off ???  If they indeed tested it they bloody well did !!!

I hope this sheds a little light on it all for you.
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I make sure of making one laser pointer is cheaper then in your imagation,as a producer with manufacture.If you believe him,you will buy their products.if you don't him,you won't buy anything.I know everything.But ,i don't say anything.

"Sorry,i have difficulties that one is reluctant to mention"
 
Morepower said:
I should have quoted the dickhead, it looks like I responded to no-one.  Can I assume he deleted his post himself ??  Anyway I was responding to this:

Quote from lasamania on Today at 4:07pm:
ok, this goes out to all the laser experts out there.  I just want to clear up some things before I finally make my purchase. If all the lasers come from CNI, whats the difference between lasers from Dragon Lasers, Nova Lasers, Laser Glow, and Techlasers? I mean, these companies just buy them bulk from CNI and then sell it to us right? It's not like cars where the designs are the same but are made from different factories.  Every laser they sell all come from the same source (same factory) and the only difference is price and customer service. What's the deal with people saying one laser company's laser is better than another? It's all the same.  So in reality, there shouldn't be posts saying you've reviewed a NOVA x85, Viper 75mW, or an Infinity 75mW because it's all the same.  It should read, I just reviewed a CNI GLP 80mW laser.  I'm no expert, but what I'm saying should be true, please tell me if I'm not.

I don't see where all this hate is coming from but all you people have to say is that this laser company sucks and that one sucks but don't you realize all the lasers come from the same place? Anyway, if you want a laser, just find a company that sells them for the cheapest. It's a matter of making more or less for the company.  I assume that this techlasers is out for war since their pricing is way lower (which is excellent for us).  I think Wicked is smart for making techlasers an associate just so they can piss everyone else off.  If you think deeper, Wicked now sells also every laser out there excluding those ebay things. I think they even carry the RPLs?

I've read some pretty good and pretty bad reviews about Wicked but one thing is certain, they have excellent customer support.  My guess is that only people that RMA make a big fuss about it so if they sell 100 lasers and 5 people RMA, it's only 5% which sounds pretty normal.  Out of the 5 people that RMA, probably 2 broke it themselves.  

anyways, I see a price war about to happen. WAR WAR WAR!! lower those prices!! go techlasers go!! The lower you go, the lower Dragon and Nova and Laserglow will go until lasers start selling for $5 each.  Dont' worry guys, this should be happening soon...I can feel it!
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P.S. I think he's feeling it alright  ;D
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yeah,laser pointer cost about same value,but those price of proudcts is more different.Why? Which laser pointer quality has problem?Which commpany is cheating unless he don't existed in the future.
finally,the price 125mW,85mW...these price ,some high,some low,why?Who thought this at past time?you know ,maybe if same factory,or same products?
hehe, my saying has more today.
you see to compare by
www.warnlaser.com
 
warnlaser.com said:
yeah,laser pointer cost about same value,but those price of proudcts is more different.Why? Which laser pointer quality has problem?Which commpany is cheating unless he don't existed in the future.
finally,the price 125mW,85mW...these price ,some high,some low,why?Who thought this at past time?you know ,maybe if same factory,or same products?
hehe, my saying has more today.
you see to compare by
www.warnlaser.com
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Please keep in mind that warnlaser is guilty until proven innocent at this point (IMO).

Warnlaser has demonstrated fraudulent practices in the past, and currently sells what APPEAR to be Spymode-style (scam) lasers. I would steer clear unless we get some reputable reviews of their >100mW products.
 
pseudonomen137 said:
Please keep in mind that warnlaser is guilty until proven innocent at this point (IMO).

Warnlaser has demonstrated fraudulent practices in the past, and currently sells what APPEAR to be Spymode-style (scam) lasers. I would steer clear unless we get some reputable reviews of their >100mW products.
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oh,sorry,guys,i don't know what saying offend you ,but i only have proven laser pointer manufacture have more benefit.
in the past time ,if i know forums people think this,i don't say more in here because no behalf to me ,to my company.and disadvantage to me and to same company.
only ,i only prick a bubble with the middleman.

ok ,i see,i do shit up to these topic,my guys ,you will buy anythings as long as you like.whatever,i don't care.you think you right,you are true.

btw:warnlaser have more problem,i do better in future and i want to publish the public our process,our technology,our document.our happy,and so on. interested in laser pointer that's my reasons
 
To Warnlaser - I can honestly tell that you ARE making an effort to communicate with us, and reassure us regarding your products - therefor I deem you to be at least with honorable intentions, and I thank you for that. Pseudo, and others (including myself) are constantly on the lookout for companies and individuals that are trying to scam people out of their funds, and with all the new laser companies popping up as of late, we have been very busy trying to sort out the good from the bad. We have determined that these Techlaser folks are nothing but hot air, as is their parent company, Wicked Lasers. Although Wicked does produce a quality product about 3% of the time, they are still no better than most well advertised scammers in my opinion, and do not back their products the way they say they do. I thank you personally for your continued contribution to the forum, and I look forward to seeing if you can send out a 100mw or above green laser for testing purposes. As long as your product performs as advertised, you have nothing to lose, and everything to gain from this venture ! Take care, continue posting, and seriously consider sending a higher powered pointer, rather than the low powered one. Thanks !

G !
 
warnlaser said:
[quote author=pseudonomen137 link=1188759895/15#19 date=1189005780]

Please keep in mind that warnlaser is guilty until proven innocent at this point (IMO).

Warnlaser has demonstrated fraudulent practices in the past, and currently sells what APPEAR to be Spymode-style (scam) lasers. I would steer clear unless we get some reputable reviews of their >100mW products.
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oh,sorry,guys,i don't know what saying offend you ,but i only have proven laser pointer manufacture have more benefit.
in the past time ,if i know forums people think this,i don't say more in here because no behalf to me ,to my company.and disadvantage to me and to same company.
only ,i only prick a bubble with the middleman.

ok ,i see,i do shit up to these topic,my guys ,you will buy anythings as long as you like.whatever,i don't care.you think you right,you are true.

btw:warnlaser have more problem,i do better in future and i want to publish the public our process,our technology,our document.our happy,and so on. interested in laser pointer that's my reasons[/quote]

And don't take this the wrong way, but could you get someone who speaks english fluently and well to redo your webpage? You might be the most honest businessman in china, but your website is a really bad engrish joke right now.
Laser technology is getting cheaper all the time and If you provide good QA and customer service you'll do great. You don;t need the fancy marketing BS like wicked has. Sadly that's abut the only thing wicked can do these days is market a crap product.
 
I'll back warnlasers all the way once a review has been submitted. And I will ask you guys to give them a little break too. Innocent until proven guilty springs to mind here ;)
 
Timelord - I tend to agree with you on this point, as they are attempting to do some good so far ! :-)
 
I will back WarnLaser 100% as well if they send their 120mW laser for review and the result is as good as what other reputable company perform. Competition is always good for us.

If their product reach 120mW average output or more, other company will feel the pressure to drop their prices and they will get more customer. It's a win win situation here. By sending your high power unit for review, all you lose is a measly shipping cost, and you stand to gain a lot more. This is providing that you really have an excellent product to back up your claim though...
 
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