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Illegal immigrants have no business impacting apportionment.
 
They always have. The census counts everyone. It always has. An EO won't change that. It's silly that you think it will.
 
Upon taking office in 2021, former President Joe Biden used an executive order to affirm the longstanding practice of including all people residing in a state in the official count. Trump revoked that order on his first day in office this term.

My bet is Trump will get a favorable SCOTUS ruling this time and a mid-decade census, i.e. a 2025 census that excludes illegals.

Even if we don't get a new census, illegals should be estimated and deducted for apportionment as per political representation, because illegal invaders absolutely shouldn't be given political representation.
 
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RedCowboy said:
Upon taking office in 2021, former President Joe Biden used an executive order to affirm the longstanding practice of including all people residing in a state in the official count. Trump revoked that order on his first day in office this term.

My bet is Trump will get a favorable SCOTUS ruling this time and a mid-decade census, i.e. a 2025 census that excludes illegals.

Even if we don't get a new census, illegals should be estimated and deducted for apportionment as per political representation, because illegal invaders absolutely shouldn't be given political representation.
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Yeah, good luck with that. The census has always counted everyone. It's been that way since we started taking a census. Biden had nothing to do with that. It's hilarious that you think he did.
 
Illegal immigrants have no right to political representation and democrats cheating has to stop, expect Trump to get a positive SCOTUS ruling on this.

The highly corrupt Biden auto pen cabal fostered illegal immigration to the tune of 10 million illegals or more, they will not be counted for apportionment.
 
RedCowboy said:
Illegal immigrants have no right to political representation and democrats cheating has to stop, expect Trump to get a positive SCOTUS ruling on this.

The highly corrupt Biden auto pen cabal fostered illegal immigration to the tune of 10 million illegals or more, they will not be counted for apportionment.
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Good luck with that.
:ROFLMAO: you claim that Biden somehow did something illegal, while Trump does that daily. Look up the laws that enable the census. I expect you'll be surprised. The census is in the Constitution!
 
The Biden autopen cabal intentionally circumvented our immigration law in order to increase their House seats, THIS WAS CRIMINAL!

ARE YOU A US CITIZEN?

The SCOTUS MUST REVISIT THE PREVIOUS DECISION ON ASKING THIS QUUESTION IN THE CENSUS!

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It is constitutional to include questions in the decennial census beyond those concerning a simple count of the number of people. On numerous occasions, the courts have said the Constitution gives Congress the authority to collect statistics in the census. As early as 1870, the Supreme Court characterized as unquestionable the power of Congress to require both an enumeration and the collection of statistics in the census. The Legal Tender Cases, Tex.1870; 12 Wall., U.S., 457, 536, 20 L.Ed. 287. In 1901, a District Court said the Constitution's census clause (Art. 1, Sec. 2, Clause 3) is not limited to a headcount of the population and "does not prohibit the gathering of other statistics, if 'necessary and proper,' for the intelligent exercise of other powers enumerated in the constitution, and in such case there could be no objection to acquiring this information through the same machinery by which the population is enumerated." United States v. Moriarity, 106 F. 886, 891 (S.D.N.Y.1901).

The census does not violate the Fourth Amendment. Morales v. Daley, 116 F. Supp. 2d 801, 820 (S.D. Tex. 2000). In concluding that there was no basis for holding Census 2000 unconstitutional, the District Court in Morales ruled that the 2000 Census and the 2000 Census questions did not violate the Fourth Amendment or other constitutional provisions as alleged by plaintiffs. (The Morales court said responses to census questions are not a violation of a citizen's right to privacy or speech.) "…t is clear that the degree to which these questions intrude upon an individual's privacy is limited, given the methods used to collect the census data and the statutory assurance that the answers and attribution to an individual will remain confidential. The degree to which the information is needed for the promotion of legitimate governmental interests has been found to be significant. A census of the type of Census 2000 has been taken every ten years since the first census in 1790. Such a census has been thought to be necessary for over two hundred years. There is no basis for holding that it is not necessary in the year 2000."

The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit affirmed the District Court decision on October 10, 2001, 275 F.3d 45. The U.S. Supreme Court denied petition for writ of certiorari on February 19, 2002, 534 U.S. 1135. No published opinions were filed with these rulings.

These decisions are consistent with the Supreme Court's recent description of the census as the "linchpin of the federal statistical system … collecting data on the characteristics of individuals, households, and housing units throughout the country." Dept. of Commerce v. U.S. House of Representatives, 525 U.S. 316, 341 (1999).




Importance of Apportionment​



Article I, Section 2 of the U.S. Constitution mandates that an apportionment of representatives among the states must be carried out every 10 years. Therefore, apportionment is the original legal purpose of the decennial census, as intended by our Nation's Founders. Apportionment is the process of dividing the 435 memberships, or seats, in the U.S. House of Representatives among the 50 states, based on the state population counts that result from each decennial census. The apportionment results will be the first data published from the 2020 Census, and those results will determine the amount of political representation each state will have in Congress for the next 10 years.
 
RedCowboy said:
The Biden autopen cabal intentionally circumvented our immigration law in order to increase their House seats, THIS WAS CRIMINAL!

ARE YOU A US CITIZEN?

The SCOTUS MUST REVISIT THE PREVIOUS DECISION ON ASKING THIS QUUESTION IN THE CENSUS!

-----------------------------

It is constitutional to include questions in the decennial census beyond those concerning a simple count of the number of people. On numerous occasions, the courts have said the Constitution gives Congress the authority to collect statistics in the census. As early as 1870, the Supreme Court characterized as unquestionable the power of Congress to require both an enumeration and the collection of statistics in the census. The Legal Tender Cases, Tex.1870; 12 Wall., U.S., 457, 536, 20 L.Ed. 287. In 1901, a District Court said the Constitution's census clause (Art. 1, Sec. 2, Clause 3) is not limited to a headcount of the population and "does not prohibit the gathering of other statistics, if 'necessary and proper,' for the intelligent exercise of other powers enumerated in the constitution, and in such case there could be no objection to acquiring this information through the same machinery by which the population is enumerated." United States v. Moriarity, 106 F. 886, 891 (S.D.N.Y.1901).

The census does not violate the Fourth Amendment. Morales v. Daley, 116 F. Supp. 2d 801, 820 (S.D. Tex. 2000). In concluding that there was no basis for holding Census 2000 unconstitutional, the District Court in Morales ruled that the 2000 Census and the 2000 Census questions did not violate the Fourth Amendment or other constitutional provisions as alleged by plaintiffs. (The Morales court said responses to census questions are not a violation of a citizen's right to privacy or speech.) "…t is clear that the degree to which these questions intrude upon an individual's privacy is limited, given the methods used to collect the census data and the statutory assurance that the answers and attribution to an individual will remain confidential. The degree to which the information is needed for the promotion of legitimate governmental interests has been found to be significant. A census of the type of Census 2000 has been taken every ten years since the first census in 1790. Such a census has been thought to be necessary for over two hundred years. There is no basis for holding that it is not necessary in the year 2000."

The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit affirmed the District Court decision on October 10, 2001, 275 F.3d 45. The U.S. Supreme Court denied petition for writ of certiorari on February 19, 2002, 534 U.S. 1135. No published opinions were filed with these rulings.

These decisions are consistent with the Supreme Court's recent description of the census as the "linchpin of the federal statistical system … collecting data on the characteristics of individuals, households, and housing units throughout the country." Dept. of Commerce v. U.S. House of Representatives, 525 U.S. 316, 341 (1999).




Importance of Apportionment​



Article I, Section 2 of the U.S. Constitution mandates that an apportionment of representatives among the states must be carried out every 10 years. Therefore, apportionment is the original legal purpose of the decennial census, as intended by our Nation's Founders. Apportionment is the process of dividing the 435 memberships, or seats, in the U.S. House of Representatives among the 50 states, based on the state population counts that result from each decennial census. The apportionment results will be the first data published from the 2020 Census, and those results will determine the amount of political representation each state will have in Congress for the next 10 years.
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All you've provided is reasons why there is a census. Show me where Trump can change that? He can't. You just believe anything that Fox News tells you.
 
That is up to Trumps lawyers, the DOJ and ultimately the SCOTUS. ;)
 
The Constitution does NOT say that illegal invaders have to be counted for apportionment.
 
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