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[RedCowboy]

NIH schemes to keep risky viral research alive despite Trump crackdown
August 28, 2025

The National Institutes of Health (NIH) plans to continue creating novel pandemic viruses in apparent defiance of an executive order signed by President Donald Trump calling for a crackdown on the research, according to three government sources involved with the process, who were granted anonymity to avoid government reprisals.

Biosafety hawks have been duking it out with officials at the NIH, the Pentagon and the Department of Homeland Security as an interagency group finalizes Trump’s policy on dangerous gain-of-function (GOF) research — which makes viruses more deadly in the lab. Per the executive order, the policy on federal GOF research is due Sept. 2. Three intelligence agencies have concluded that a lab accident sparked COVID-19.

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President Barack Obama halted funding for GOF research in 2014 after several security lapses involving lethal bugs, including anthrax at the CDC, smallpox at the FDA, and bird flu at the USDA. The NIH lifted a ban on gain-of-function research in late 2017 during President Trump’s first term.

And then there was the COVID plan-a-demic that kills mostly sick old people, when Trump discovers it was done on purpose to stop Trumps reelection and reduce global population, I want the people responsible executed.

 

[paul1598419]

NIH schemes to keep risky viral research alive despite Trump crackdown
August 28, 2025

The National Institutes of Health (NIH) plans to continue creating novel pandemic viruses in apparent defiance of an executive order signed by President Donald Trump calling for a crackdown on the research, according to three government sources involved with the process, who were granted anonymity to avoid government reprisals.

Biosafety hawks have been duking it out with officials at the NIH, the Pentagon and the Department of Homeland Security as an interagency group finalizes Trump’s policy on dangerous gain-of-function (GOF) research — which makes viruses more deadly in the lab. Per the executive order, the policy on federal GOF research is due Sept. 2. Three intelligence agencies have concluded that a lab accident sparked COVID-19.

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President Barack Obama halted funding for GOF research in 2014 after several security lapses involving lethal bugs, including anthrax at the CDC, smallpox at the FDA, and bird flu at the USDA. The NIH lifted a ban on gain-of-function research in late 2017 during President Trump’s first term.

And then there was the COVID planademic that kills mostly sick old people, when Trump discovers it was done on purpose to stop Trumps reelection and reduce global population, I want the people responsible executed.

The COVID-19 pandemic killed a million people just in the US. BTW, there's no l in pandemic. Trump has many enemies he perceives that are against him. You want them killed?! How Trumpy of you.

 

[paul1598419]

A Federal judge has now ruled that Trump's use of the military in Los Angeles was illegal. I knew that was going to happen.

 

[paul1598419]

Most epidemiologists don't believe COVID-19 was released from a lab. This is another distraction.

 

[RedCowboy]

Most epidemiologists don't believe COVID-19 was released from a lab. This is another distraction.

Covid came from a lab, not bats in a cave, your lies and misinformation fall of def ears.

The COVID-19 pandemic killed a million people just in the US. BTW, there's no l in pandemic. Trump has many enemies he perceives that are against him. You want them killed?! How Trumpy of you.

I spelled it PLAN-a-demic on purpose.

I don't want Trumps perceived enemies killed, I want any scumbag elitist responsible for killing a million people in the US alone as part of a depopulation plan or any plan, should it be proven to be the case, to receive capital punishment.

 

[RedCowboy]

A Federal judge has now ruled that Trump's use of the military in Los Angeles was illegal. I knew that was going to happen.

I don't want a democrat POTUS using troops to enforce anything unconstitutional and I don't want Trump to do so either, the SCOTUS will likely decide if Trump's emergency declaration is valid for deploying national guard troops.

Regardless the illegals will be deported, because paul, nobody is above the law.

 

[paul1598419]

How in the world are any persons here responsible for the COVID-19 dead? That is just Trump nonsense again. If anyone is responsible it would be Trump for his horrible mismanagement of the pandemic.

 

[RedCowboy]

No, Dr. Fauci is far more responsible for COVID than President Trump.
A level 8 bio weapon's research shouldn't be conducted in a Chinese level 5 lab.
Also, we shouldn't be so dependent on China that we can't get PPE in an emergency.


You think this moron would be doing a better job? Ha!

 

[paul1598419]

No, Dr. Fauci is far more responsible for COVID than President Trump.
A level 8 bio weapon's research shouldn't be conducted in a Chinese level 5 lab.
Also, we shouldn't be so dependent on China that we can't get PPE in an emergency.

Dr. Fauci had nothing to do with any allocations of money to China. He just disagreed with Trump, so Trump hates him. As I said, most epidemiologists don't believe COVID-19 was released from a lab.

 

[RedCowboy]

It was.
Even our CIA had said as much.

What to Know About the CIA's Conclusion that COVID-19 Came From a Lab

Despite "low confidence" in its own conclusion, the intelligence community weighs in.

time.com

 

[RedCowboy]

US appeals court allows Trump's EPA to nix climate grants.​

(Reuters) -A federal appeals court on Tuesday overturned a judge's ruling that had required U.S. President Donald Trump's administration to continue funding $16 billion worth of grants that a group of non-profits were awarded pursuant to his Democratic predecessor Joe Biden's signature law to address climate change.

 

[paul1598419]

It was.
Even our CIA had said as much.

What to Know About the CIA's Conclusion that COVID-19 Came From a Lab

Despite "low confidence" in its own conclusion, the intelligence community weighs in.

time.com

The first paragraph on your article stated that it was more likely that COVID-19 emerged from the wild. The only thing it did say in your favor is that it is not known for certain. But, that is medicine. You can almost never say anything is certain.

 

[RedCowboy]

What to Know About the CIA's Conclusion that COVID-19 Came From a Lab

Despite "low confidence" in its own conclusion, the intelligence community weighs in.

time.com

The first paragraph on your article stated that it was more likely that COVID-19 emerged from the wild. The only thing it did say in your favor is that it is not known for certain. But, that is medicine. You can almost never say anything is certain.

You lie about what's in an article that anyone can read and see that you paul are a liar.

" on Jan. 25, 2025, the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) weighed in, saying in a statement to reporters that the virus is “more likely” to have come from a lab than a natural reservoir like a bat or other animal at the wet market. The conclusion did not come from new evidence—merely a fresh look at existing data "


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NIH official finally admits taxpayers funded gain-of-function research in Wuhan — after years of denials.​

NIH official finally admits taxpayers funded gain-of-function research in Wuhan — after years of denials

National Institutes of Health (NIH) principal deputy director Lawrence Tabak admitted to Congress Thursday that US taxpayers funded gain-of-function research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology in C…

nypost.com

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Document exposes $40 million of US taxpayer money sent to Wuhan for bat coronavirus emergence research.​

Document exposes $40 million of US taxpayer money sent to Wuhan for bat coronavirus emergence research | Today News

A newly released document reveals that the US government, under the Biden administration, allocated over $40 million in taxpayer funds to the Wuhan Institute of Virology for research on bat coronaviruses.

www.livemint.com

 

[paul1598419]

What to Know About the CIA's Conclusion that COVID-19 Came From a Lab

Despite "low confidence" in its own conclusion, the intelligence community weighs in.

time.com

You lie about what's in an article that anyone can read and see that you paul are a liar.

" on Jan. 25, 2025, the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) weighed in, saying in a statement to reporters that the virus is “more likely” to have come from a lab than a natural reservoir like a bat or other animal at the wet market. The conclusion did not come from new evidence—merely a fresh look at existing data "


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NIH official finally admits taxpayers funded gain-of-function research in Wuhan — after years of denials.​

NIH official finally admits taxpayers funded gain-of-function research in Wuhan — after years of denials

National Institutes of Health (NIH) principal deputy director Lawrence Tabak admitted to Congress Thursday that US taxpayers funded gain-of-function research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology in C…

nypost.com

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Document exposes $40 million of US taxpayer money sent to Wuhan for bat coronavirus emergence research.​

Document exposes $40 million of US taxpayer money sent to Wuhan for bat coronavirus emergence research | Today News

A newly released document reveals that the US government, under the Biden administration, allocated over $40 million in taxpayer funds to the Wuhan Institute of Virology for research on bat coronaviruses.

www.livemint.com

The CIA has no business weighing on on this. Especially this CIA. This is the task of scientists.

 

[paul1598419]

The NY Times has an article out today of how Trump has tried to destroy wind projects in the US. Unlike the Keystone pipeline that had not even started, Trump has stopped a project in the northeast that was 80% complete. More than 10% of all electricity is comes from wind. In places like Texas this number is 20%.

 

[Aorus Forever]

The Lab in which the Research was being funded by the US Gov. Until Trump canceled the contract.

It's impossible hide a paper trail when money is being transferred.

Research does not = Covid, and there is nothing but conspiracy theories that Covid came from a "lab", maga just wants to demonize anyone who doesn't agree with the pedophile and chief king trump...