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I can not say that I hate them because I don't, but they never listens to me or understands me. They're not letting me buy a 65-85 mW laser because they think I will go around and blind people. I can understand them but I think they should trust me! I really want a laser :(
I wanted to buy an x-85 wit lens holder and protective goggles but they also thinks it costs too much. I can afford it myself! Im a really nice kid thats really... Im not so good at english.... reasonable? I don't know whats the meaning of this thread but I just had to say it... Im soon 15 years old and Im not a f_king idiot like some of my friends. I think there is nothing to do but proving that Im worth it and being really nice and taking care of my little sisters.

***Edited out F bomb... I am SURE your folks would not appreciate that !***
 





Well your parents are only looking out for you. I would do some research on lasers and safety with lasers then go to your parents with info in hand.

Show them that you can be responsible.
 
Greenie said:
Well your parents are only looking out for you.   I would do some research on lasers and safety with lasers then go to your parents with info in hand.  

Show them that you can be responsible.

That will work.

Not.  ;D

A parent will just see "whiny kid making up excuses" if you come to them with "research" etc.

There are two options open to you.

1. Wait until you have your own job and funds, and can buy what you want.

2. Develop an "interest" in electronics. Make Daedal's driver board and run a $4(U.S.) 5mW diode from eBay on it. Ask them to buy and order parts you need for "electronic projects". Even better, if you have a way to order or buy the parts yourself, just go and do it. Make sure the first few packages have safe/innocent contents, like harmless electronics kits when they want to see what's in the packages, or open them for you. Unless they're very suspicious and strict, they'll stop opening packages someday.

Bombard them with technical terminology (hopefully your parents aren't scientists, IT/IS workers, or Engineers...) about what you're doing, the non-high power laser projects you're building, and they'll get bored listening to you, and only give a glance at what you're doing do be sure it dosen't look dangerous. Go to www.dealextreme.com and ask them if you can spend your allowance or birthday money on the non-laser gadgets they sell there that you might like. There's plenty of flashights and gadgets that aren't lasers a kid would like there.

See if you can get your own PayPal account going, and can fund it from your own money.

Once you've got them used to you ordering electronic parts, gadgets, computer accessories, little fiddly things and wires etc. a bare laser diode assembly coming home in the mail one day won't look threatening, like a pen-pointer you could stick in your pocket and get in trouble with at school.

At a minimum even if you can't get a laser until you're older, you'll get a bunch of tools like a multimeter, soldering iron & gear, Dremel tool, hobby knives, mini-screwdrivers etc. that you'll still need when you're 18 and able to buy whatever you want. Maybe your parents will have bought those things for you, letting you spend your money on the lasers you want when they can't say no anymore.

Seriously though, a lot of us older guys don't have "parent trouble" with our hobbies, we've got "wife trouble" with our hobbies.  ;D

Frankly, as a kid and a teenager at 16 years old, I leanred how to experiment with all sorts of things by simply not asking. I went to the local electronic surplus shop, bought a Helium-Neon laser tube, and made my first laser without asking anybody.  :)

For dealing with parents (and spouses) here are the rules.

1. Ease them into it. Work up to what you want little by little. Get them used to seeing you do related things that aren't objectionable.

2. Say as little as possible. THINK before you go talking to your parents, bragging "THERES THESE COOL LASERS ON THE INTERNET THAT CAN BURN STUFF!", then a week later come back saying "Um, gee... Mom? Can I, um, like buy one of those lasers?" ::)

3. When you have to say something about what you're doing, think carefully, and tell as much of the truth as you can.
 
yeh i just said dad if i cant have a high powered laser could i make one and he doubted me so i bought the diode an im out to prove him wrong :)
 
I suggest you get something lower powered, and prove to them that you are responsible, then maybe you can convince them to get it.
 
Well, I didn't read the big post, so I don't if this has been said. ::) Just get one and don't tell them. Or do what I do, just say I got a 15mw, and it is really a 100mw. ;D They will never be able to tell the differance. ;) Anyway, be safe, and you'll be with one, if they know or not!
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not to be mean to king but if they wakl in and see ou light a match or pop a baloon then all their trust is gone and the chain you have on will become so short and they will barely trust you so you wont be able to do much.
 
Well I do not think you should try to lie or trick your parents. What do you think that will tell them when they find out?

It seems some folks here had issues with trust as they were growing up :S
 
I'm eighteen and I didn't tell my parents when I bought my laser. I just showed it to them after I got it and they were okay with it. Not crazy about it but okay haha.
 
Lasernoob -

Get them interested in lasers, show them the neat things, the excellent displays you can do with them - get them excited in lasering as a hobby, and you may get surprised ! :-) Or - email me with your contact info, and approach them with the idea about talking to me regarding the hobby - now...IF you do this, I do not mind calling them and such, but keep in mind I am not going to lie about the dangers and such - I would just let them know about all the cool things you could do with a laser, and if you are a safe person, you can learn loads as well ! Think about that, I extended that offer to Millionaire once - but his Dad didn't want to talk or anything....I really do not mind helping you out like this, if they are open to the idea of it. My 15 year old messes with lasers all the time, and has been nothing but safe - because I let her know from the start about all the possible issues, etc....your call - my advice is not to lie to them - that REALLY pisses off parents....
 
You'll be driving pretty soon! Wouldn't you rather have a car? That's all I could think about when I was 15: Cars and not getting stepped on by dinosaurs. Save your money for a car!
 
i'm only 13, and i bought one of senkat's diodes to play with ;D my mum doesn't know enough about lasers to know what they do, and my dad does occasionly says "you watch your eyes!" but he let me buy a diode, and i said to him "it can burn stuff" and he said ok!! i was amazed at that, especially since he just bought me a RGY scanner ::) i told him how much dvd burners are, and how hard it is to get the diode out, and he said "ok i'll buy you 1 diode, but you be very careful with your eyes" ;D
 
I don't know if I've ever said my age on here, but I'm 16 and the way i convinced my parents was finding a web page about the laws and proved to my dad that's theirs not really a law against owning them and made a deal with him that for the first month I would only use it when he was home to supervise and after I proved i'm not an idiot I eventually got to use it whenever I wanted. My parents have always trusted me though because I have a rifle and a break barrel 12 gauge under my bed with ammo on my dresser. So a laser that can light matches was nothing compared to those. But good luck with getting a laser and reason with them, you know only use it around them or slightly less power ect....
 
Let's see. I'll usually tell my mum about my purchases. But if she doesn't agree then I'll just buy it and she won't even know about it. ::)
 





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