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Normally I wouldn't get too excited about the usual whining on LC - but Avenger attacking pseudo was what set me off. I sent the link to him who posted a response, which unfortunately was deleted and the thread locked within a span of about 10 minutes. I thought some might want to see this, as well as I think duzak doesn't know about LPF which i think should be fixed. Anyway enough of me blabbing - here's the thread for those who would need a proxy to view.
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PostPosted: 10/30/07, 10:22 PM Post subject: forum aint Reply with quote
hey guys, this forum seems to be slowing down a lil bit, but good times tho, i rememebr when id have a post and thered be about 2 posts within an hour, good times, i guess laser are losing their time with humans for a while? just wodering did anyone else noticie?
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A lot of people kinda sorta moved somwhere else.
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I've noticed this as well, i always come on and lurk in OT and there would always be something new and entertaining to read on a daily basis. nowadays they are few and far between. this place has really gone downhill.
P.s. Did anyone else get the "These are the rules" reminder when they logged in?
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danvm wrote:
I've noticed this as well, i always come on and lurk in OT and there would always be something new and entertaining to read on a daily basis. nowadays they are few and far between. this place has really gone downhill.
P.s. Did anyone else get the "These are the rules" reminder when they logged in?
i got the reminder as well. most of the knowledgeable and fun loving members have either been banned or have moved elsewhere.
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it's pretty sad really... I hope they get this figured out... it's WAY too quite around here. even a private forum I'm part of with a movie group is more active! and it's only got 18 members!
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PostPosted: 10/31/07, 5:21 PM Post subject: Reply with quote
yeah i remember when there would be the beautiful orange flags on every subject, made me feel warm,now im cold, all grey,,,well its how it goes but it will come back just like the 70's are coming back! yeah!!
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Most regular members and some non-regular members as well are banned for "breaking the rules" and moved somewhere else, that's why this place is not what it used to be.
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PostPosted: 10/31/07, 9:23 PM Post subject: Reply with quote
LC has changed a lot over the course of a year. I used to spend my free time just reading and reading different threads. There were many knowledgeable members here back then (Roadrunner and pseudo just to name a few). It was a great forum back then IMO, but things have changed. I still come here and read a couple of things here and there, but nothing compared to how I was back then.
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spd2last wrote:
There were many knowledgeable members here back then (Roadrunner and pseudo just to name a few).
pseudonomen137 is banned, but RoadRunner said that he was going to come back by christmas, unfortunately, I doubt that he'll stay here for too long if things keep like they are now.
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PostPosted: 10/31/07, 10:05 PM Post subject: Reply with quote
anything we can do about this,?
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make a contest every 1-3 months...
but seriously, i just come here to read the off-topic, thats about it.
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PostPosted: 11/01/07, 6:49 AM Post subject: Reply with quote
To be perfectly honest, the ones that left are a bunch of minors and students as young as 12years old. Most of them were just posting silly "pull my finger" style posts with nothing real to say but kid crap. No offense but getting rid of a 15-20 useless posters and those adults that where taking LC and using as a sales community deserve to be banned.
Pseudo was the biggest re-seller on here and was banned for using LC to sell which if he cant follow rules and make his own community to sell his own stuff, then why should he be allowed to use LC as a sales outlet. To heck with that guy too. He was only helpful to others to gain support in his sales efforts around here. He calls what he does a hobby to hide the real facts.
I think LC will mature into a more professional site once LC bans all the kids that can control themselves and plays games around here. I am glad the ones that are gone are gone... Those kids need to get off the PC and make something of themselves rather loiter around a forum posting mostly useless BS.
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PostPosted: 11/01/07, 6:55 AM Post subject: Reply with quote
i check every few days, altough i just dont post alot.
I think after ppl got there laser for a few months, thay lose interest in it. For them its a cool geek thing to have but gets boring after a while.
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PostPosted: 11/01/07, 7:10 AM Post subject: Reply with quote
Ah, but the issue is, the forum is useless if no one uses it, isn't it.
I'll take a few junk posts to have 20x that in GOOD posts. That's how it used to be, sure there were lots of annoying newbie posts, but that's just normal.
Sorry to say, but if you cut the kids, you cut most of your consumer base too. There are TONS of adult, I know, but there were WAY more kids.
And now all the seasoned members are gone... Wondergimp just left...
all the good people are gone. Crying or Very sad
Sadly, I'd say 75% of you don't even know what it WAS like a year ago (nearly two years now!)
Anywho, I may need to drop to lurker status... hardly anything posted now... it used to take an hour of good reading before I was done here... now it takes FIVE MINUTES.
Even worse, the OT section is even deader then the green laser section! wow!
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PostPosted: 11/01/07, 9:59 AM Post subject: Reply with quote
maybe it will come back, i dont know tho , i regained my intrest after a couple of monts of not caring, and i was surprised at the low amount of posts, i remember when i saw my 1st laser add on a wensite so i checked it out. then man did i get the stmoach butterflies after seeing what it could do, and man did i try and convince my dad for about 7 months and finnaly after gaining so much knowledge after reading off the posts here at LC i got one! lovely little thing , and the support from here was great too, now im almost scared to buy anything new cause there wont be nearly as much feedback as i would have gotten now a days, and i miiss some of the older guys here they were gods at this kinda stuff and they relle knew ther stuff and how to help. and i think that the moderators possibly overdue the bandings with some people , i mean yeah maybe they were outta control and selling things but im sure some ppll would want to get a cheap nice laser form a trusted member. BUT what i want to know is,,,,what happened to all those poor laser they own................they mit not be geting used,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,and i am going insane to try and find about a 500 mw infared pen laser, or anything over 250 mw in pen size. i can not stop thinking about it. ughhh Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked
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PostPosted: 11/01/07, 11:57 AM Post subject: Reply with quote
Yes, also in April of this year, when I registered here, the forum was still a very lively place. I learned a lot about lasers from the many knowledgeable members here during those months (yes, also from the 'minors'!), and there was always a lot of interesting stuff to read.
But when the new rules came, in July, many members felt they couldn't talk freely anymore and left for other laser forums.
Let's keep in mind though, that age doesn't always say very much about a person's knowledge. There were a lot of teenagers here who really knew their stuff about lasers, and they had quite a lot of experience, too. I learned a lot from them when I came here as a newbie, and I'm still thankful to them for helping me get into the world of lasers.
By the way, Athoul has had some conversations with the WL staff (he mentioned that in a few threads here), and he heard that there is a possibility that the rules may become less strict in the future. We'll have to wait and see.
Personally, the only lasers I have are from Wicked Lasers, and they all work perfectly within spec. I'm happy with them and have never had any problems with WL. Frankly, I don't feel the need to talk about other companies, simply because I don't have any of their lasers. So for me it's easy to stick to the rules here. No problem.
Duzak, I hope you still feel 'at home' here, even though the forum is a lot quieter now. Let's just enjoy our laser hobby! Cool
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heh heh... I happen to be one of those teenagers... Wink
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the new rules were indeed the straw that "broke the camel's back". A number of members left after the rules were changed and the rest were banned for not following the new rules. Even if the rules were changed to what they once were i doubt many people would return as reputation can be permanently marred by a single action, even if it is corrected.
Avenger - i would not recommend bashing other people you have not personally dealt with.
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PostPosted: 11/01/07, 3:38 PM Post subject: Reply with quote
thecheat wrote:
heh heh... I happen to be one of those teenagers... Wink
Kinda figured that, being on WL/LC for 657 days divided by 3,093 posts means you post 4.7 post a day... No adult has time nor the need to squat a site like that.
@ mario, the fact remains that LC is a forum based around a business, it's not a play ground for hanging out and being taken advantage of by other companies and there fan club. I am quite sure WL is doing just fine without the riff raff that was LC for the last year.
If someone don't want to be here because they aren't allowed to advertise or spam or because competitors cant no longer be preditors here on LC, then go to where you can. I don't have a problem with rules, new or old and those that do can stay away. Simple as that.
EDIT: This thread is closed. - Admin
Normally I wouldn't get too excited about the usual whining on LC - but Avenger attacking pseudo was what set me off. I sent the link to him who posted a response, which unfortunately was deleted and the thread locked within a span of about 10 minutes. I thought some might want to see this, as well as I think duzak doesn't know about LPF which i think should be fixed. Anyway enough of me blabbing - here's the thread for those who would need a proxy to view.
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PostPosted: 10/30/07, 10:22 PM Post subject: forum aint Reply with quote
hey guys, this forum seems to be slowing down a lil bit, but good times tho, i rememebr when id have a post and thered be about 2 posts within an hour, good times, i guess laser are losing their time with humans for a while? just wodering did anyone else noticie?
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A lot of people kinda sorta moved somwhere else.
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PostPosted: 10/31/07, 2:04 AM Post subject: Reply with quote
I've noticed this as well, i always come on and lurk in OT and there would always be something new and entertaining to read on a daily basis. nowadays they are few and far between. this place has really gone downhill.
P.s. Did anyone else get the "These are the rules" reminder when they logged in?
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danvm wrote:
I've noticed this as well, i always come on and lurk in OT and there would always be something new and entertaining to read on a daily basis. nowadays they are few and far between. this place has really gone downhill.
P.s. Did anyone else get the "These are the rules" reminder when they logged in?
i got the reminder as well. most of the knowledgeable and fun loving members have either been banned or have moved elsewhere.
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it's pretty sad really... I hope they get this figured out... it's WAY too quite around here. even a private forum I'm part of with a movie group is more active! and it's only got 18 members!
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PostPosted: 10/31/07, 5:21 PM Post subject: Reply with quote
yeah i remember when there would be the beautiful orange flags on every subject, made me feel warm,now im cold, all grey,,,well its how it goes but it will come back just like the 70's are coming back! yeah!!
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Most regular members and some non-regular members as well are banned for "breaking the rules" and moved somewhere else, that's why this place is not what it used to be.
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PostPosted: 10/31/07, 9:23 PM Post subject: Reply with quote
LC has changed a lot over the course of a year. I used to spend my free time just reading and reading different threads. There were many knowledgeable members here back then (Roadrunner and pseudo just to name a few). It was a great forum back then IMO, but things have changed. I still come here and read a couple of things here and there, but nothing compared to how I was back then.
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spd2last wrote:
There were many knowledgeable members here back then (Roadrunner and pseudo just to name a few).
pseudonomen137 is banned, but RoadRunner said that he was going to come back by christmas, unfortunately, I doubt that he'll stay here for too long if things keep like they are now.
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anything we can do about this,?
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make a contest every 1-3 months...
but seriously, i just come here to read the off-topic, thats about it.
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To be perfectly honest, the ones that left are a bunch of minors and students as young as 12years old. Most of them were just posting silly "pull my finger" style posts with nothing real to say but kid crap. No offense but getting rid of a 15-20 useless posters and those adults that where taking LC and using as a sales community deserve to be banned.
Pseudo was the biggest re-seller on here and was banned for using LC to sell which if he cant follow rules and make his own community to sell his own stuff, then why should he be allowed to use LC as a sales outlet. To heck with that guy too. He was only helpful to others to gain support in his sales efforts around here. He calls what he does a hobby to hide the real facts.
I think LC will mature into a more professional site once LC bans all the kids that can control themselves and plays games around here. I am glad the ones that are gone are gone... Those kids need to get off the PC and make something of themselves rather loiter around a forum posting mostly useless BS.
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PostPosted: 11/01/07, 6:55 AM Post subject: Reply with quote
i check every few days, altough i just dont post alot.
I think after ppl got there laser for a few months, thay lose interest in it. For them its a cool geek thing to have but gets boring after a while.
I lost interest to for a few months but im back now Very Happy
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Ah, but the issue is, the forum is useless if no one uses it, isn't it.
I'll take a few junk posts to have 20x that in GOOD posts. That's how it used to be, sure there were lots of annoying newbie posts, but that's just normal.
Sorry to say, but if you cut the kids, you cut most of your consumer base too. There are TONS of adult, I know, but there were WAY more kids.
And now all the seasoned members are gone... Wondergimp just left...
all the good people are gone. Crying or Very sad
Sadly, I'd say 75% of you don't even know what it WAS like a year ago (nearly two years now!)
Anywho, I may need to drop to lurker status... hardly anything posted now... it used to take an hour of good reading before I was done here... now it takes FIVE MINUTES.
Even worse, the OT section is even deader then the green laser section! wow!
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maybe it will come back, i dont know tho , i regained my intrest after a couple of monts of not caring, and i was surprised at the low amount of posts, i remember when i saw my 1st laser add on a wensite so i checked it out. then man did i get the stmoach butterflies after seeing what it could do, and man did i try and convince my dad for about 7 months and finnaly after gaining so much knowledge after reading off the posts here at LC i got one! lovely little thing , and the support from here was great too, now im almost scared to buy anything new cause there wont be nearly as much feedback as i would have gotten now a days, and i miiss some of the older guys here they were gods at this kinda stuff and they relle knew ther stuff and how to help. and i think that the moderators possibly overdue the bandings with some people , i mean yeah maybe they were outta control and selling things but im sure some ppll would want to get a cheap nice laser form a trusted member. BUT what i want to know is,,,,what happened to all those poor laser they own................they mit not be geting used,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,and i am going insane to try and find about a 500 mw infared pen laser, or anything over 250 mw in pen size. i can not stop thinking about it. ughhh Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked
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PostPosted: 11/01/07, 11:57 AM Post subject: Reply with quote
Yes, also in April of this year, when I registered here, the forum was still a very lively place. I learned a lot about lasers from the many knowledgeable members here during those months (yes, also from the 'minors'!), and there was always a lot of interesting stuff to read.
But when the new rules came, in July, many members felt they couldn't talk freely anymore and left for other laser forums.
Let's keep in mind though, that age doesn't always say very much about a person's knowledge. There were a lot of teenagers here who really knew their stuff about lasers, and they had quite a lot of experience, too. I learned a lot from them when I came here as a newbie, and I'm still thankful to them for helping me get into the world of lasers.
By the way, Athoul has had some conversations with the WL staff (he mentioned that in a few threads here), and he heard that there is a possibility that the rules may become less strict in the future. We'll have to wait and see.
Personally, the only lasers I have are from Wicked Lasers, and they all work perfectly within spec. I'm happy with them and have never had any problems with WL. Frankly, I don't feel the need to talk about other companies, simply because I don't have any of their lasers. So for me it's easy to stick to the rules here. No problem.
Duzak, I hope you still feel 'at home' here, even though the forum is a lot quieter now. Let's just enjoy our laser hobby! Cool
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heh heh... I happen to be one of those teenagers... Wink
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PostPosted: 11/01/07, 3:27 PM Post subject: Reply with quote Edit/Delete this post
the new rules were indeed the straw that "broke the camel's back". A number of members left after the rules were changed and the rest were banned for not following the new rules. Even if the rules were changed to what they once were i doubt many people would return as reputation can be permanently marred by a single action, even if it is corrected.
Avenger - i would not recommend bashing other people you have not personally dealt with.
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PostPosted: 11/01/07, 3:38 PM Post subject: Reply with quote
thecheat wrote:
heh heh... I happen to be one of those teenagers... Wink
Kinda figured that, being on WL/LC for 657 days divided by 3,093 posts means you post 4.7 post a day... No adult has time nor the need to squat a site like that.
@ mario, the fact remains that LC is a forum based around a business, it's not a play ground for hanging out and being taken advantage of by other companies and there fan club. I am quite sure WL is doing just fine without the riff raff that was LC for the last year.
If someone don't want to be here because they aren't allowed to advertise or spam or because competitors cant no longer be preditors here on LC, then go to where you can. I don't have a problem with rules, new or old and those that do can stay away. Simple as that.
EDIT: This thread is closed. - Admin
, than an older dip sh!t with a immature kids attitude. :-X
