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Modding side-momentary button onto C6 host?

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Hey there,

has anyone here possibly attempted to mod a momentary button onto the SurvivalLaser C6 host? Basically what i had imagined is attached, excuse the wrong perspective and shitty edit job :p

When using 16340 batteries, as i do, interally theres roughly 2 mm of free space to the side of the battery, so it should be easily possible to drill some small holes for the buttons legs, run some short wires from the switch and have a thin plastic plate with contacts on either side on the positive end of the driver to essentially have the button switch the connection for the positive terminal, and the bottom clicky one will connect the negative side. This would also fullfill the side effect of stopping it from rolling around on slightly tilted surfaces :D

Has anyone done this before? Seriously interested to try it :p
 

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Interesting idea. Wonder if the little momentary/button switch could handle the amps. Best wishes with the idea, love to see a build like this. :)
 
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I have not done this, but you need to be aware that tactile switches, like the one you show, carry far less current than is usually necessary for a laser with more than 300 mA , or about a 100 mW to 250 mW laser. The way you have it shown, it would need the legs insulated too. Most people around here put tactile switches inside the host and have a button protruding. They use better switches than the one you have shown.
 

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Interesting idea. Wonder if the little momentary/button switch could handle the amps. Best wishes with the idea, love to see a build like this. :)

Will definitely research and test that before drilling holes in my host, seeing as i need to carry sth in the range of 2-3 amps :p. Technically these switches have a very simple construction, mostly just two metal plates getting in touch of each other, so if thin wire is able to carry the power i dont think it'd have much of a problem with that.

Most people around here put tactile switches inside the host and have a button protruding. They use better switches than the one you have shown.

Welp, i dont really have much room to play with in this host :D Also yeah im aware that i need to insulate the legs.
 

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So after having removed the end cap and just placed one of those buttons in between the housing and the negative battery pole and lazering around for a good 30 seconds it didnt even get warm to the touch, leading me to believe it can (easily) handle the current. Time to continue i guess.
 

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So after having removed the end cap and just placed one of those buttons in between the housing and the negative battery pole and lazering around for a good 30 seconds it didnt even get warm to the touch, leading me to believe it can (easily) handle the current. Time to continue i guess.

Give it a shot. If you can, grab some pics of the work in progress. ( and some beam shots) :)
 
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Well well well, it works! Granted, this type of button is not really that "good", as in pressing it down in some weird angles will not make it conduct, but it works well enough. It wasnt until after drilling that i realized that i do not need holes for the second pair of contact, but i guess they are here to stay now.

The way it works is that the tailcap switch still exists as a "primary" switch, and the tactile button completes the circuit. Since i have some open contacts now to ground (AFTER the tailcap switch), as well as a second contact to the positive terminal (BEFORE the push button) i may or may not add in a small SMD led and resistor to signal that the tailcap switch is "primed". I initially planned to have the tailcap switch light up when thats pressed, but that would require me to run a wire down there and it would just be an absolute pain.

Holes drilled, wires soldered to button, inserted into position and isolated: looks good!
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Inside angle
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Said "interceptor" plate crudely thrown together and fixed in place with electrical tape
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Extra insulation on the driver contract plate eventhough shorts seem(ed) unlikely
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Driver screwed back in, alignment seems perfect
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Funny story: The batteries now ever so slighly protrude out of the battery tube, which caused them to touch the metal ring on the tailcap which apparently is connected to the casing, which thus has been "skipped". Yeah.. That couldve easily caused unforseen issues. Never assume, always test! Soo, i insulated that as well
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Doesnt look too shabby!
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Said outside shot. Dont have anything like a tripod or the like rn, so the image is pretty shitty :p
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Which green wavelength did you use? It looks like a 532nm DPSS laser, but cameras don't always represent colors the way they actually look. If it is a 520nm, what power is it set to produce? These tactile switches may work for awhile, but if the current is too high, they tend to fail eventually. If is is a 200 mW 532nm, it is probably drawing about 1 amp which will give the switch a hard time and could burn the contacts. Hope it holds up for you.
 

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It is 520 (NUGM01T), driver's set to about 2 Amps. Im aware of possible future issues and will keep an eye on that. The worst that could happen is that i have to remove it again and would have to cover the battle field with electrical tape which would make it more or less clean again.
 
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Congrats, "love it when a plan comes together" not to shabby at all indeed! A led would spice it up a bit and if it was a green led the better. But either way thanks for the pics and a :gj:
 

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It probably isnt as clean as it would've been with SMD parts but i dont mind the raw / industrial look ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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It is 520 (NUGM01T), driver's set to about 2 Amps. Im aware of possible future issues and will keep an eye on that. The worst that could happen is that i have to remove it again and would have to cover the battle field with electrical tape which would make it more or less clean again.


Glad you know that at 2 amps that switch is almost guaranteed to fail. I hope it doesn't smoke and burn on you. Nice LED. :D
 

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Glad you know that at 2 amps that switch is almost guaranteed to fail. I hope it doesn't smoke and burn on you. Nice LED. :D

As mentioned previously, i've had it run for like 30 seconds straight and it didnt even get warm to the touch. Not sure about the internal contacts but i guess i'll see. After 30-40 seconds is usually the time i let the heat disappate for a minute or so because it gets to a level where i dont feel comfortable to not smoke my diode :p
 




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