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FrozenGate by Avery

Dont wanna get laughed out the room for this one..

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Ok, at the risk of getting quoted and made fun of for an indefinate period of time, here goes.

I feel I just don't have the fundamental knowledge of laser pointers and there companies to make a well educated decision and subsequent confident purchase. I dont approve of a person entering a new hobby asking the "how do I build a house question" but sometimes you get the best results being crude, so to speak.

That being said, I dont want to end up with some non filtered weak 125+ mW pointer that doesn't even sting my own black ass and I hear I could have bought a unit twice as good for half the price the next day on the forums. So...

Im looking to burn at the longest range possible (popping balloons at long range is cool also)
Beam divergence is not too critical to me since I will be observing/operating at relatively close distances (less than 1/2 mi) .

The most important quality is overall beam visibility (day or night). I don't know exactly how power output relates to beam brightness or heat intensity, which is why I need an expert opinion. For example, If it is said that lasers A,B and C all have IR (and any other filter needed for the unit to emit just it's specified wavelength of light) filters and emit green beams Is it reasonable to assume that the intensity of the beam will be determined by the power output rating?

Do all companies divulge whether or not their units are filtered? If not how does one find out?

I realize the quality of the components play a large role in the price, this is a particularly difficult decipherment for the first time buyer, expressly where to draw the line. Im not at all interested in buying a "knock of" that kicks ass performance wise, at the cost of operating lifetime.

I'm willing to spend between $400 and $600. I would think this approaches the realm of decency depending on your outlook.

I fly and maintain a fleet of 7 RC helicopters ranging from nitro to turbine powered......The most maintenance/work I want to perform with lasers is pressing the on button!

So I humbly ask, given this price range, what some top contenders may be.

Thank you all for listening to my paranoia induced monologue. Pete
 





Re: Dont wanna get laughed out the room for this o

naw you can feel free to ask any questions here
I think the general rule is 4x the power, 2x the beam visibility
I think going with novalasers.com or a1lasers.com (still under construction ;) ) will be your ideal choices
 
Re: Dont wanna get laughed out the room for this o

Simple answer...optotrinics RPL. I think it might be just what you need. You can also get a 7.5% forum discount. If I had $600.00 to spend I would not hesitate to but a RPL165.

http://www.optotronics.com/
 
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The more power, the brighter it will be. With 532nm, ie green, light, it's a four to one ratio, meaning for every 4x more power, it will be 1x more brighter. So a 20mW twice as bright as a 5mW.

I would not go with WickedLasers, DragonLasers, or TechLasers.

There are many great laser company's out there, such as Optotronics, LaserGlow, and NOVALasers.

There is also a company named DestructiveGear, there is only one user here with a unit them, but they appear to be a good company with quality lasers.

If I was in your position, I would go with a RPL, from Optotronics.
 
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As many people say the RPL from Optotronics is an amazing laser! I have the X-105 equivalent laser and I love it! Nice and visible, great range, pop balloons at a distance. I have easily lit a match instantly from 8 feet with a lens. For star pointing it looks great and at a cost of $209 shipped! I would recommend the case to go with it as a friend of mine has one and it's great. It's great to have you at the forum Pete!

**X-105 equivalent meaning a laser of the same make as the CNI www.novalaser.com sells as their X Series.
 
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It's great to have you at the forum Pete!

Thanks buddy, and thanks guys for all the input, That x-105 looks cool, but Ive already set a budget of $600 so Ill probably go with the RPL.

I actually have a few RC trucks I may get rid of, I don't use them much and this seems like a more interesting hobby. If so Ill have a few more dollars to throw down, well see.

Pete
 
Re: Dont wanna get laughed out the room for this o

Hey pete, I just sent you a PM you'll probably want to check out :)
 
Re: Dont wanna get laughed out the room for this o

if your spending that much on a laser i suggest you buy a non AAA battery powered laser and you can find them in novalasers,desrtuctive gear,and a couple others just to name a couple reliable companies
 
Re: Dont wanna get laughed out the room for this o

Well..lookie here......
Papa Smurf.....

Hey..glad to see you on the forum!!!!

Too cooll!!!


Wa are really lucky to hae you here!!!!

Welcome....!!!!!

LarryQ
 
Re: Dont wanna get laughed out the room for this o

Pete - was in the same boat buying my first laser 4 months ago and went with the wicked laser Executive 125mw green. However, my research was done on another forum owned by wicked laser - which of course promoted only wicked laser. Didn’t know this at the time.

What I like about the laser is its bright, small and operated from one button. The one button is important because i have plans to use in RC heli application...  ;) "16 roman candles a RC heli and nightflying are an awesome combination" Adding aerial laser show to the mix - Priceless….

What i dont like is 1) Had issues when ordering so im concerned if a warranty issues arises. 2) The laser beam seems to start off bright and dim. I believe this is due to the batteries. When i put in new ones it seems to be fine. 3) It uses AAA batteries and it seems due to point 2 I need to always have to replace batteries with fresh ones. 4) I'm not sure i made a good purchase being so many bad things are said about the company. 5) I'm scared of the laser and blowing my eyes out.

From my rookie laser opinion you may prefer a non-AAA. Unless small is important .

- Doug
 

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Re: Dont wanna get laughed out the room for this o

Nice Heli. I have a T-Rex 400. Wow those roman candles must add some stability to your chopper. I have done the mini cam thing. Now that is fun. ;D
 
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the following stickies are very helpful and might assist in making your decision:

http://www.laserpointerforums.com/forums/YaBB.pl?num=1171421788 - which laser
http://www.laserpointerforums.com/forums/YaBB.pl?num=1172987253 - list of resources
http://www.laserpointerforums.com/forums/YaBB.pl?num=1183732376 - $/mW table

The last one is  very important to most of us.  I don't know if it takes into acount any recent discounts - someone else can address that.

Finally, for visibility, get a Green.  If you really aren't sure what you need, I'd get a cheap one for starters, or borrow one from someone.  Having one in your hand will really help you determine what you need and want.  ;)

Optotronics and Laserglow can't be beat for customer service on the truly high powered units
 
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stevetexas said:
the following stickies are very helpful and might assist in making your decision:

http://www.laserpointerforums.com/forums/YaBB.pl?num=1171421788 - which laser
http://www.laserpointerforums.com/forums/YaBB.pl?num=1172987253 - list of resources
http://www.laserpointerforums.com/forums/YaBB.pl?num=1183732376 - $/mW table

The last one is very important to most of us. I don't know if it takes into acount any recent discounts - someone else can address that.
i don't include things like forum discounts in the table, so the 5% from nova or 7.5% from optotronics etc for LPF users is something you need to factor in yourselves - there could be potentially multiple different discounts from different companies and it'd just make it complex. i do try to update it every so often, and if when i update a company has say a "special $200 off for a month" or whatever, i'll include that - basically the table is just what is the listed price on the websites at the time, not including any conditional discounts (discounts that require a code or whatever to use). i'm glad people appreciate it though :)
 
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That Heli picture is so cool!, Ive saved it if you dont mind!
You could build an x/y servo setup and steer the laser if you have an extra 2 channels available
it would be awesome... till the cops came!
 
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Have at the photo. There is a video on youtube. Search:
Houston Heli Fun Fly. I would post link but the site wont let me.

Nightfly is about half way thru it. The lightbar is 2' long for a idea of scale. And yes for those who watch to the end that is a heli flying upside down while 20 people fire roman candles at it...  8-)

Ok, so now that us heli guys have lasers. How to we scan it across the horizon? Please post links to where to buy the items needed. No need to use 2-channels to steer the laser since this can be done with the heli. But will use one to turn laser on/off and another for scan on/off.

- Doug
 
Re: Dont wanna get laughed out the room for this o

u guys might have invented the next big hobby! nite cameras on IR laser armed R/C whirly birds! dogfights at midnight! portable airborn laser light shows for YOUR next sporting event or corporate picnic.
 





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