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Cheap Safety Glasses - TESTED

No, but I will probably order some of the ones mentioned in this thread.

The reason I want the oems, is I'm going to be up close and personal with class IV's in my projector. I have already lost the sight in one eye (not laser related) so cannot put a value on the vision in the other. Spending a coupla hundred on good quality laser glasses for that work, makes sense to me.

I somehow doubt cheapies will handle 2 watts+ at 532,445 and 637 all at once. :)

For pointers (of which I have none at the moment), the ones in this thread seem fine to me, and when I get the urge, i tend to burn from a distance anyway. (5ft-40ft - yes I burned a hole in a leaf with my 445 up the top of a tree. We saw the reflection in the canopy then saw the beam pass right through. Focusing is critical!). I did cheat here. I used a tripod to hold the laser :P

I wont have such luxury with the projector, but I will have 2 other aces: good goggles, and the ability to crank the lasers down to low power during alignment :)
 
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All good points! Just wanted to add to one of the reasons that there are those of us even pursuing this route.

Ideally, we would all have OEM glasses for ourselves and our friends.

Realistically, we would like to find some cheap glasses that will protect the casual bystander and laser fans that aren't going to spend for quality goggles.
 
Yeah - for pointers the cheapies are fine. The only way I'll show friends inside my projector while the lasers are on full bore is on my ipad screen, or if they get oem glasses. Its much more likely that I'll be struck in the face with a beam from the scanner than a pointer.

Cheap glasses are better than none. Good glasses are better than cheap, but not everyone can afford them :)
 
Even after reading the discussion, I'm picking up a couple pairs of these. I ordered one of Swim's overspec 5mw lasers, and also a 5mw laser from Amazon, so I figure I don't really *need* goggles, but I'd prefer to have a pair for me and the roommate, in case we do some fun stuff with mirrors.

FWIW, I'm a 22 year old English teacher. Pretty poor, but also pretty responsible (self-proclamation, I know) and I think this was a great review, and a great pair of goggles for those of us who don't have as much money to spend :)
 
You are using improper info to support your argument. Yes Honeywell does make these, but not for use with lasers. They sell laser wear too.

You'll notice the proper laser goggles from Unex are ~$308.

Laser Safety Glasses, LOTG, Nd:YAG , Excimer, Diodes, GaAs, 26% VLT, Poly

If they were confident that the goggles you test would be good for lasers, you'd think they would say so.

As been said a dozen times now, one LPM test does not define if these goggles are safe or not. I dont know why you wont except this.

We do things scientific here. We are already creating a test situation, and donating money to have multiple goggles tested, to see if they are consistent, and exactly what kind of specs they have. Thats how we do it. We dont just do one test, and yell YEA THEY WORK! We test everything before putting out recommendations. This includes everything in the laser hobby (lasers, diodes, batteries, projectors, goggles, drivers, ect. This save people money, and helps make the hobby progress. By keep arguing you are convincing people that dont know better these are OK, and they are not, yet. You're actually hurting the hobby in this way.

Your review is a good piece on information, but thats all it is. There needs to be many more tests done before we start recommending these.
 
Tech_Junkie said:
You are using improper info to support your argument. Yes Honeywell does make these, but not for use with lasers. They sell laser wear too.

You'll notice the proper laser goggles from Unex are ~$308.

Laser Safety Glasses, LOTG, Nd:YAG , Excimer, Diodes, GaAs, 26% VLT, Poly

If they were confident that the goggles you test would be good for lasers, you'd think they would say so.
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I believe that is because their laser goggles have to handle industrial settings with much more powerful lasers. I believe for the hobbyist in situations that most of us are experiencing, that these goggles offer complete protection from 405 and 445 and significant protection from 532.

I do not claim my test is perfect science, but it does show that these glasses virtually eliminate a 1.25+ Watt 445nm beam, and a >650mW 405nm beam.

I have also repeatedly asked for others to order a set of these inexpensive goggles and test them.

Finally, please remember my argument is that these are not better than OEM goggles or other similar brands. However, they are very likely better than some of the cheap Chinese made goggles that so many people THINK are laser goggles, and they are definitely better than no goggles when you are showing your 3 or 4 friends how your 1-2W (easily obtainable) 445 laser will burn things.

We do things scientific here. We are already creating a test situation, and donating money to have multiple goggles tested, to see if they are consistent, and exactly what kind of specs they have. Thats how we do it. We dont just do one test, and yell YEA THEY WORK! We test everything before putting out recommendations. This includes everything in the laser hobby (lasers, diodes, batteries, projectors, goggles, drivers, ect. This save people money, and helps make the hobby progress. By keep arguing you are convincing people that dont know better these are OK, and they are not, yet. You're actually hurting the hobby in this way.

Your review is a good piece on information, but thats all it is. There needs to be many more tests done before we start recommending these.
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Get on it then! My point still stands. If you are buying one pair of good goggles and then using these lasers with other people around, or not buying goggles at all, this is a better choice. You can buy a handful of these for your friends and family to use for the price of a single pair of expensive glasses made for laboratory conditions. For pointers, I believe these will do the job.

Make your own decisions, I don't work for Honeywell and I know these aren't rated for lasers in their data sheets. But I use them for my violet, blue and green pointers and my personal test satisfies me that I am safe.
 
tsteele93 said:
I believe for the hobbyist in situations that most of us are experiencing, that these goggles offer complete protection from 405 and 445 and significant protection from 532.
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We dont recommend on belief, we recommend on facts.

tsteele93 said:
I do not claim my test is perfect science, but it does show that these glasses virtually eliminate a 1.25+ Watt 445nm beam, and a >650mW 405nm beam.
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Its only a tiny piece of data, and nothing more.

tsteele93 said:
they are very likely better than some of the cheap Chinese made goggles that so many people THINK are laser goggles
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How do you know. Have you tested numerous other Chinese goggles? What figures are you basing this on?

tsteele93 said:
Get on it then!
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Its been already going on. Where were you?

http://laserpointerforums.com/f53/tester-needed-lets-try-out-some-cheap-goggles-71877.html

You're still not listening, and I dont know why. We deal in facts when it comes to eye safety. Do you really want to be responsible if someone got injured from your advice?

All you keep repeating is "I think" "I believe" "they are likely". These statements are not fact. You're talking this whole thing way to personal, like people are putting down your test. We are not, we are putting down your conclusions. You're totally talking out of your ass. The general statements you are making about these goggle, with only one test, is totally irresponsible. Please realize this.

We're not busting your balls.
 
Focalprice.com or wsdeal.com
I have their anti green goggles (tehy appearantly prtect 405nm-590nm)

Rallerboy
 
Tech_Junkie said:
We dont recommend on belief, we recommend on facts.
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No you don't. You take the Chinese goggle suppliers at their face value. You haven't tested them extensively.


Its been already going on. Where were you?

http://laserpointerforums.com/f53/tester-needed-lets-try-out-some-cheap-goggles-71877.html
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I am the reason that thread exists. And I've posted in it. I DID my test, that thread is people following up on my test.


You're totally talking out of your ass. The general statements you are making about these goggle, with only one test, is totally irresponsible. Please
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It is not based on "one test."

I started with the data on this page http://www.uvex.us/uploadedFiles/Uvex_Lens_Tech_Broch(1).pdf

Which shows the light transmission for all visible wavelengths.

This page also shows the data on these lenses

http://www.coopersafety.com/LensGuide.aspx

"In the case of SCT-Orange, the tint is designed for use in the dental industry or in other industries where UV lamps are used for curing materials such as paints or inks. As the chart below demonstrates, SCTOrange offers a wide range of spectral protection. It absorbs >99.9% of potentially harmful UVA and UVB radiation. It further provides protection by completely absorbing visible light up to 540nm, which includes violet, blue and certain green wavelengths of light which are emitted by curing lamps. "


Based on that I tested them for MY personal use and shared that test here. Disagree all you want, but don't act like these are some half-butt goggles that have no data to back them up. They are Honeywell goggles designed for uv curing and similar technology. They are not for lasers specifically but they happen to do a great job of blocking 405-532 at the levels we are working with and they are cheap.
 
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