351nm 5mm LED

[TheDukeAnumber1]

Has anyone played with these yet? Or found them cheaper?

5mm LED - Ultra Violet 351nm 15 Degree Viewing Angle

 

[Cyparagon]

0.26% efficient? 0.2mW output? Ouch.

Looks cool... but compared with your typical 1W (0.2W out) 365nm die, it's twice the price for one thousandth the power.

 

[TheDukeAnumber1]

Yeah it is pretty abysmal, I'm hoping they get cheap quick though. They'd be fun to toy with but like you said $20 is a lot for the power you get.

 

[Benm]

It is a novelty you pay for. UV leds have been limited to 395 and the odd 375 nm ones for quite some time, with shorter wavelength at astronomical prices.

Surely the output power of these is very small, but they are relatively affordable. I'm not really sure what you would need them for, but if there is some application that works much better on 351 nm compared to 375 i'm sure the market will mature eventually.

I can imagine they'd be useful for curing resins or something like that when output power picks up a bit.

 

[autonomousperson]

1piece 10W 7070 UV 395 400nm 6 8V 1 2A High Power LED on 20mm Copper Star | eBay

If wayyy more power is needed ~ 100w
http://www.ebay.com/itm/3w-5w-10w-2...uarium-/321776680835?var=&hash=item4aeb627f83



I highly recomend the Cree XP-E Uv led. It is pretty much the Apple of the led market.

EDIT
If you really want high power ~500w
http://www.ebay.com/itm/50W-70W-80W...-Light-/221626640432?var=&hash=item3399fa2830

 

[styropyro]

That's really cool that these exist, even if they are low power as of now. 351nm is getting low enough for use in photoinitiation reactions.

 

[Benm]

Indeed, the photoelectric effect can be very important for some applications.

351 nm could be very good for applications like uv-curing resins and such. 395 nm may not cut it there no matter how intense, the energy per photon is just too low to initiate the reaction.

I'm sure sure application whould be niche for now, but once these things roll off the production lines with more power and affordable prices i can see them used in applications like sterilization, ozonation and such.

 

[TheDukeAnumber1]

You might better compare them to 365nm LED's. I would be very interested to see their spectral graphs overlapped to see if the 351nm really has a good edge over the 365nm.

Still want some though. I think it would be really neat to have a room completely lit by fluorescence with no visible output from the LED's.

 

[Benm]

The proof is in the measurements ofcourse, but i'm assuming they are what is advertised unless proven wrong.

I'm not really sure what the limit of wavelength is where UV becomes totally invisible. Perhaps even 350 nm may be somewhat visible if looking directly into the source, although that would not be a wise thing to attempt.

 

[styropyro]

My experience with a 5mW average 355nm laser was that it was completely invisible, although that was hard to test because nearly everything fluoresced under that light. I miss that laser...

 

[Benm]

Hehe, i can imagine, the so called cancer-ray

There is a big difference between lasers and leds when in comes to monochromaticity. A 351 nm led will probably have a gaussian wavelength profile that perhaps drops to 1% at 375 nm or something like that.

The 355 is a dpss with an extremely narrow output bandwidth, and would be under 1% within a few nm of its operational output.

 

[styropyro]

Hmmm...we could take the gaussian function describing intensity as a function of wavelength and multiply it by the curve describing relative human eye visibility as a function of wavelength to get a weighted curve of the visibility of LEDs vs. lasers in these wavelengths.

Too bad the visibility curve probably has a lot of variation from person to person at these wavelengths...but this would be fun to investigate.

 

[Cyparagon]

A 351 nm led will probably have a gaussian wavelength profile that perhaps drops to 1% at 375 nm or something like that.

It works the other way, too. A 1W 365nm LED still has a bit of power at 351nm. Probably more than the 5mm LED mentioned at the beginning. (my spectrometer's response drops off rapidly under 370nm or so.)

 

[Benm]

Surely it works both ways

The problem with near-UV sources is that they just make everything fluoresce, so it's very hard to tell true invisibility without looking directly into them. And even then, if it fluoresces a bit within your eye, does it could as invisible?