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I just thought it was time someone pointed out some basic English for you guys...

"Solder" has an "l" in it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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Are you talking about when they pronounce it "sodder" hahah
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Are you talking about when they pronounce it "sodder" hahah
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makes me chuckle everytime i hear it haha
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It's downright weird. Sodder sounds like some kind of obscene ***ual act! What's wrong with SOL-DER-ING?
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I am used to pronouncing it "sodder", is that incorrect?

Or is it supposed to be pronounced "soul-der" ?
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Well actually it appears to be yet another US bastardisation of the English language.

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Origin:
1325–75;  (n.) ME soudour  < OF soudure, soldure,  deriv. of solder  to solder < L solidāre  to make solid, equiv. to solid ( us ) solid  + -āre  inf. suffix; (v.) late ME, deriv. of the n.

—Related forms
sol·der·a·ble, adjective
sol·der·er, noun
sol·der·less, adjective
de·sol·der, verb (used with object)
re·sol·der, verb
Looking at the origin, it would appear this is how sodder originated.
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Well actually it appears to be yet another US bastardisation of the English language.

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Origin:
1325–75;  (n.) ME soudour  < OF soudure, soldure,  deriv. of solder  to solder < L solidāre  to make solid, equiv. to solid ( us ) solid  + -āre  inf. suffix; (v.) late ME, deriv. of the n.

—Related forms
sol·der·a·ble, adjective
sol·der·er, noun
sol·der·less, adjective
de·sol·der, verb (used with object)
re·sol·der, verb
Looking at the origin, it would appear this is how sodder originated.
I see. I learned using "sodder" and I will continue to do so.
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Odd, they dont pronounce welder - wedder but then again solder is a product as well as an activity , where as welder is a "person" (or robot).
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Well actually it appears to be yet another US bastardisation of the English language.

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Origin:
1325–75;  (n.) ME soudour  < OF soudure, soldure,  deriv. of solder  to solder < L solidāre  to make solid, equiv. to solid ( us ) solid  + -āre  inf. suffix; (v.) late ME, deriv. of the n.

—Related forms
sol·der·a·ble, adjective
sol·der·er, noun
sol·der·less, adjective
de·sol·der, verb (used with object)
re·sol·der, verb
Looking at the origin, it would appear this is how sodder originated.
Wait, you're saying it's a US thing when the origin is put in the 1300s? Am I reading that right? Because there were no Europeans in the Americas until after Columbus, 1492. What am I missing here?

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that really anoys me when they say SODDER.....i thought at first it was just the "american accent" but then i realised they wernt saying solder....
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Wait, you're saying it's a US thing when the origin is put in the 1300s? Am I reading that right? Because there were no Europeans in the Americas until after Columbus, 1492. What am I missing here?
it also states in the definition you gave that the pronunciation is [sod-er]. i have to agree with PBD on this one. if it was bastardized then it was done long before "america" was ever formed...
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I just thought it was time someone pointed out some basic English for you guys...

"Solder" has an "l" in it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We have gone through this solder pronunciation discussion
before..

IIRC... it seems the USA and Canada pronounce it "sodder"
and the English speaking Europeans pronounce it "soLder"..

I've been in the Electronics field for ~30 years and I have
yet to converse with an electronics associated person and
have them pronounce it other than "sodder"...

(How would you pronounce knew.... "Cnew"...)

But thanks for trying to point out that I don't know my own
language...
(I know the Tittle said Americans... but we use the same
pronunciation as our southern friends...)

BTW... Soudure is French for Solder
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(How would you pronounce knew.... "Cnew"...)


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Ive been in the electronics field for ~25 years, and back when i was working as a service agent for most of the far east electroncs manufacturers, ive never heard it called sodder , untill i heard an american speak.

You say Tomatoes...
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Ive been in the electronics field for ~25 years, and back when i was working as a service agent for most of the far east electroncs manufacturers, ive never heard it called sodder , untill i heard an american speak.

You say Tomatoes...
I can't tell where you are from by your Member profile..
I guess the Chinese would have trouble pronouncing it....
(Fried Rice = Flied Lice)... they seem to like the "L"...

But I agree we don't agree...


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UK people, also please stop butchering the word 'aluminum'.... it is NOT spelled 'aluminium'!!
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