RPL, Hulk, (Viasho) Group Buy SAVE!

I for one could be very happy and well satisfied with an over powered 165 mW rated RPL green laser myself!

Yeah. Ehhh Christmas I could upgrade. 165mw might be fine I'm already getting a portable 1 watt red

bootleg2go said:

Hi GooeyGus,
Viasho builds our RPL modules to our specs, but the RPL is not the generic Viasho pointer sold to many 3rd party retailers across China.
I think this was stated earlier in this thread or one related to it. If a lower price with lower performance, specs and warranty are what everyone wants, then do a Vaisho groupbuy.
If a high peformance, tight spec'd professional grade portable laser is what some poeple are in need of, I'll work with John and or Glenn to make an RPL groupbuy happen.

Jack

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Hi Jack,

You state that the RPL is better than the "the generic Viasho pointer".
Could you be a bit more specific? What is the difference?!?

You are probably saying this to defend the price difference.
I wrote an email to Viasho to ask this. There is no difference at all.
I encourage people to do the same thing.

I agree with GooeyGus. You can easily get 50% price cut if chosing Viasho.
Even better price in a Group Buy, I guess?

If you go to Visho, or I do a GB direct from them, there are services and trade up ability you/ we would miss out on. Jack does a very good job of quality control and offers many extra service and things like a case, charger and on and on, so it is a little unfair, I think, to say he is just trying to justify a higher cost. Viasho will not take your (prefectly good), unit back and trade up like Jack will after you decide to move on with your laser facination into a different power relm or wavelength, and they don't provide a battery let alone case, charger, accessories & freebies etc! There are very good reasons many veterans would love to give Jack the order, and these folks are not foolishly wasting the $! (steps off of his soapbox and zips it!) -Glenn

I have ~ 320 USD avaible. Is this a chance for a good deal on a higher power green or should I go with the CNI groupbuy?

Ehhh you could probably get an RPL if you get a little more money

scopeguy20 said:

Jack does a very good job of quality control and offers many extra service and things like a case, charger and on and on, so it is a little unfair, I think, to say he is just trying to justify a higher cost. -Glenn

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Hi Glenn,


I think its very nice that you do Group Buys for this laser commity.
And they succeed because people trust in you. Good job.

I never said that the price was the only difference.
Optotronics have longer warranty and an upgrade-system. And that is very nice.
If you read my post, you will see that I only responded to Jacks statement about RPL being superior to the "the generic Viasho pointer".
This is bullshit.
I asked Viasho. There is no difference. Exact same parts.

Jack is lying about a quality difference in lasers, because no way the extra charger can cope with a nice Viasho price

I don't know, things like the hercules from Laserglow are clearly different.

CNI wouldn't sell it to me. What was Viasho's email?

With respect to buying a high powered green laser, I've been dragging my ass for quite a while now. I'm like everybody else, I don't want to pay more than is necessay. But I feel like I've been through this story a thousand times. Just when I'm about to commit myself to buying an Optotronic RPL or an LG Aries/Herc - all of a sudden there appears a chance to get "the same thing" at half the price. And always, after researching this new deal, I find out that it was too good to be true. The old saying "you get what you pay for" hangs tough. The writing is on the wall for me - I'll support an Opto GB.

Dave

Well it is hard to pass up a deal like this Giface. I was in the same thing as you. It's hard to cough up the money, when a discount like this is slapping you in the face it really isn't

It's the slapping that comes after the purchase that I'm most concerned about - but I honestly hope I'm wrong.

Dave

Nahhhhh Just buy something small to start out with then? 165mw for around 400.

I hope Jack would honor the retail prices if we wanted to upgrade, or that'd kind of make the discount void

Hey Void, I understand your stance, and it was also similarly stated by BlueFusion a while back. Even though the lasers are all built, (by Viasho), to the same requirements from the same line of production parts, there is variation, and if Jack will test and select the better units and return to the mfg those units that do not meet his QC for power stability or low divergence etc., then these Jack sells are more "select" units indeed. And like I said, the extras are quite considerable as well.
None the less, I am still looking into and considering the possibility of using a direct buy from Viasho, in which case, I need to be good at QC myself among other services to my friends buying here. This, I also have been doing with other suppliers and other goods such as mirrors, sleds, and other companies lasers and products.
To tell you the truth, the biggest hassle is the shipping internationally and finding all the time and trouble dealing with USPS and other shippers and insurance etc. Nearly every country is a study in it's self of costs options customs and and local reliability of the shipper. It's sure much easier to just want something, order it, and then have others preform ideally or be flamed!

Opto have a good reputation.
Especially the upgrade system is very nice.

themandalorian said:

165mw for around 400.

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I paid 750$ for a Viasho ~440mW (average output, 60sec). I wont need an upgrade.
If you ask politely, maybe Viasho will pick a good unit for you. I like 'em overspec'ed.

Good luck with the group buy. I have a plane to catch and a vacation to enjoy

Depending on when this happens, I may be interested in getting into this for a "pen style Premium 150mw" greenie. Is it a CNI or a Newwish though? I couldn't find a website for Viasho, so I'm not sure, or is this going to be through Jack?

Glenn, I'm also interested in the prices on the 594nm RPL's. I doubt the house commander will let me buy one (lol), but I'm still curious!

Hey quadcam, there are only two colors of true RPL's Green and Blue. They are great lasers if limited to these 2 wl's! If you want a portable yellow (flashlight style) you are not alone! I have a Vega -5, (also made by CNI but sold by LasrerGlow), and I still want a CNI (PGL III 593.5nm 5 mW) like the one I got Schriken_Licht, her laser seems twice as bright as mine does peaked! Also the Vega -10 sells from LG for ~$1,199, but I got the PGL III from CNI for about $550 (both btw are costs before shipping or PP fees, But look!, What that deal! For CNI lasers please see my CNI GB's